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  • P Pete OHanlon

    You had to have Buns of Steel to sit through the whole thing without going numb. Blimey, that's a long film - and it's really not the film I was hoping for.

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    I'll wait for the DVD - at least I can pause it to get snacks, wine, and so forth if I need to. It doesn't sound so good that I want to sit in the cinema to watch it anyway...

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      I'll wait for the DVD - at least I can pause it to get snacks, wine, and so forth if I need to. It doesn't sound so good that I want to sit in the cinema to watch it anyway...

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      You're right. It's not that good. The back story is ponderous. Jonathan Kent is particularly unlikeable, and the fight scenes while being too fast to see properly, drag on far too long. All in all, it's a film that's far too impressed with its own special effects than on character and plot development.

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        You had to have Buns of Steel to sit through the whole thing without going numb. Blimey, that's a long film - and it's really not the film I was hoping for.

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        Keith Barrow
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        143 mins :WTF: Though I don't recommend Googling "Man of Steel Length" with SafeSearch off :)

        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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        • K Keith Barrow

          143 mins :WTF: Though I don't recommend Googling "Man of Steel Length" with SafeSearch off :)

          “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
          “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

          Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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          pffft...try watching 180 minutes of Bollywood :rolleyes:

          I are n00b.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            You had to have Buns of Steel to sit through the whole thing without going numb. Blimey, that's a long film - and it's really not the film I was hoping for.

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            szukuro
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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            and it's really not the film I was hoping for

            I can understand, but honestly the film was exactly as one would expect from the writers of Batman Begins and the director of 300, it was almost literally a combination of the two. Obviously you have to like their style to like the film itself.
            Not really being a Superman fan I found this is the first adaption that was worthy of the underlying saga, without it being cliché-ridden. Also it's the exact opposite of the previous movie, which I have to say I loathe deeply (emo cr#p with the stupidest superhero movie plot ever).

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            • K Keith Barrow

              143 mins :WTF: Though I don't recommend Googling "Man of Steel Length" with SafeSearch off :)

              “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
              “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

              Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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              Keith Barrow wrote:

              143 mins

              Is that all? It felt longer. A lot longer (and no, this isn't anything to do with a SafeSearch off).

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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                and it's really not the film I was hoping for

                I can understand, but honestly the film was exactly as one would expect from the writers of Batman Begins and the director of 300, it was almost literally a combination of the two. Obviously you have to like their style to like the film itself.
                Not really being a Superman fan I found this is the first adaption that was worthy of the underlying saga, without it being cliché-ridden. Also it's the exact opposite of the previous movie, which I have to say I loathe deeply (emo cr#p with the stupidest superhero movie plot ever).

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                The problem is, Superman is the complete antithesis of Batman. Superman is supposed to be light, to Batman's dark. How are we to reconcile Jonathan Kent's exhortations for Clark to grow up with an inate selfishness with the selflessness that Superman epitomises in the comics? In the end, Superman comes across as dull, where Batman is interesting.

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                  pffft...try watching 180 minutes of Bollywood :rolleyes:

                  I are n00b.

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                  I tried watch 20 mins of a Bollywood film once. Despite the picturesque ladies and certain surreal charm, playing guess the plot and figuring out why the ladies were singing as if to confuse bats got wearing. Better than the two Matrix sequels that don't exist though.

                  “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                  “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                  Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    The problem is, Superman is the complete antithesis of Batman. Superman is supposed to be light, to Batman's dark. How are we to reconcile Jonathan Kent's exhortations for Clark to grow up with an inate selfishness with the selflessness that Superman epitomises in the comics? In the end, Superman comes across as dull, where Batman is interesting.

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                    I somewhat agree with you, but also think it's more complicated than that. Batman being dark is a rather recent turn. The original Batman was nothing like the one in the recent films, and also the sad truth is that is was Adam West's portayal that first made the character really mainstream. Same with Superman, over the decades there were many incarnations of the character, that's why there are things like golden age/pre-crisis Superman, not all of which were light. The original Superman had no remorses killing bad guys, which granted is the opposite of Batman, but not in a was as one would expect it. Also one has to keep in mind that this film still is a summer blockbuster, with mostly the usual obligatory stuff (lots of action, grand scale demolitions). I think they made a good job making it fit in the plot, and left out the parts that just wouldn't work in this context, like a real romantic storyline, that are otherwise considered a must, well, just because. And yes, it's also true, that they basically made a Batman with superpowers (exaggerating a bit) in this movie. Which I don't necessarily find a bad thing, as long as they don't make a movie with both in them, which would make this more appearant, in a negative way.

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      The problem is, Superman is the complete antithesis of Batman. Superman is supposed to be light, to Batman's dark. How are we to reconcile Jonathan Kent's exhortations for Clark to grow up with an inate selfishness with the selflessness that Superman epitomises in the comics? In the end, Superman comes across as dull, where Batman is interesting.

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                      Yep. Superman is an illegal immigrant, while Batman is a rich vigilante with (probably corrupt) contacts in high places in the local law enforcement agencies.

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                      • K Keith Barrow

                        143 mins :WTF: Though I don't recommend Googling "Man of Steel Length" with SafeSearch off :)

                        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                        Keith Barrow wrote:

                        143 mins

                        That's nothing - try the three LotR films:

                        • 178 minutes[^]
                        • 179 minutes[^]
                        • 201 minutes[^]

                        And that's not even the "special-extended-directors-cut-now-with-more-Ents" edition.


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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          Keith Barrow wrote:

                          143 mins

                          That's nothing - try the three LotR films:

                          • 178 minutes[^]
                          • 179 minutes[^]
                          • 201 minutes[^]

                          And that's not even the "special-extended-directors-cut-now-with-more-Ents" edition.


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                          Keith Barrow
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                          I did. They had plots with characters which developed etc. Superman has always stuck me as more "Superman big, Superman strong, Superman mighty, Superman wear underpants over leotard"

                          “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                          “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                          Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            Keith Barrow wrote:

                            143 mins

                            That's nothing - try the three LotR films:

                            • 178 minutes[^]
                            • 179 minutes[^]
                            • 201 minutes[^]

                            And that's not even the "special-extended-directors-cut-now-with-more-Ents" edition.


                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                            I watched the first film until a message popped up saying "Insert DVD 2". Decided I didn't have enough life left for the rest of the series.

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                            • K Keith Barrow

                              I did. They had plots with characters which developed etc. Superman has always stuck me as more "Superman big, Superman strong, Superman mighty, Superman wear underpants over leotard"

                              “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                              “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                              Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                              Yes, Superman always comes across as a celebration of the USA's superiority over every other culture that's ever existed, or ever will exist. "USA big, USA strong, USA mighty, USA wear underpants over leotard elect clever president[^]." Unless you're watching the Roger Meyers, Sr.[^] version, that is.


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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                Yes, Superman always comes across as a celebration of the USA's superiority over every other culture that's ever existed, or ever will exist. "USA big, USA strong, USA mighty, USA wear underpants over leotard elect clever president[^]." Unless you're watching the Roger Meyers, Sr.[^] version, that is.


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                                This is an awesome "what if" take on the classic Superman origins story: Red Son:[^] "In Red Son, Superman's rocket ship lands on a Ukrainian collective farm rather than in Kansas... Instead of fighting for "...truth, justice, and the American Way", Superman is described in Soviet radio broadcasts "...as the Champion of the common worker who fights a never-ending battle for Stalin, socialism, and the international expansion of the Warsaw Pact." His "secret identity" (i.e. the name his adoptive parents gave him) is a state secret."

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                                • K Keith Barrow

                                  I tried watch 20 mins of a Bollywood film once. Despite the picturesque ladies and certain surreal charm, playing guess the plot and figuring out why the ladies were singing as if to confuse bats got wearing. Better than the two Matrix sequels that don't exist though.

                                  “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                  “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                  Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                  The name... If you wanna watch watch Sholay

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    You had to have Buns of Steel to sit through the whole thing without going numb. Blimey, that's a long film - and it's really not the film I was hoping for.

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                                    I'll wait for the Blu-ray release then... gotta need something to munch about :laugh:

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      You had to have Buns of Steel to sit through the whole thing without going numb. Blimey, that's a long film - and it's really not the film I was hoping for.

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                                      I liked it a lot. I was expecting to sit through an hour of origin story in Kansas, but they interspersed his youth as flashbacks, so it kept the story moving. I though Amy Adams as Lois was a horrible choice. She and Superman had ZERO chemistry. Henry and Margot Kidder would have been a better match... And, yeah, the fight scenes were a bit ridiculous. There has to come a point when 2 guys who are beating each other up for 30 minutes with no effect (other than destroying the city) should stop and say, "Alright, we gotta come up with something better than this..."

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                                      • K Keith Barrow

                                        I tried watch 20 mins of a Bollywood film once. Despite the picturesque ladies and certain surreal charm, playing guess the plot and figuring out why the ladies were singing as if to confuse bats got wearing. Better than the two Matrix sequels that don't exist though.

                                        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                        I normally run screaming for the hills, if Bollywood approaches, but I was pleasantly surprised by the 170-minute Three Idiots[^].

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Yep. Superman is an illegal immigrant, while Batman is a rich vigilante with (probably corrupt) contacts in high places in the local law enforcement agencies.

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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          Superman is an illegal immigrant

                                          Yup! Now YOU go tell him that! :laugh:

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