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There are times that Android is far, far better than Windows

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  • enhzflepE enhzflep

    :) :thumbsup: I was waiting for someone to say that. I nuked them ages ago and the only time they bother me is when they tell me there's an update available. I do of course, check to see what and why - installing as deemed necessary. Works perfectly well for me. :shrug: My computer, my rules!

    "Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin

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    Joezer BH
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    :shrug: would be a nice addition to the thin ico library :shrug:

    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

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    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

      Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

      I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      Lost User
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      Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

      Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

      Is Canonical not a for-profit organisation?

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        :shrug: would be a nice addition to the thin ico library :shrug:

        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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        I think so too. I'm sure it would have a greater utility than things like :beer: or :jig: Until then, I guess there's just the text :shrug: or an ascii pic. ¯\(°_o)/¯'

        "Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin

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        • M Matthew Faithfull

          Even more amusing when you realize that Android is in fact GoogleLinux with a seriously out of date kernel and all the apps written in Java! It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that. MS have been incredibly lucky that they did not.

          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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          Erudite_Eric
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          Out of date? Yeah, the 2.6 kernel is old, but it is used a lot for embedded devices like Android since it is stable and works. If you want an old kernel look at windows, it goes back to 2000 in a pretty much unchanged state.

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            Matthew Faithfull wrote:

            Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

            I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            Nelek
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            Ehhmmmm, I will only say... Windows Millenium and Windows Vista

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Matthew Faithfull wrote:

              It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

              And that's because it's development has been driven predominatly by software engineers and rocket scientists who love the whole command line thing. They don't get that 99.5% of actual users are not like them, have no idea and no interest in how a computer works, they just want to click "Send" (or whatever) and see their email/farcebook post/etc. happen. Heck, some struggle with that. If anyone had actually bothered to rope in some graphic designers and UX designers (I'm guessing Microsoft, along with Apple have buildings full of them) then just maybe that would have happened.

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              I understand how a computer works down to motherboard component level and still just want to click "Send" over typing out some error prone and cryptic command in an archaic shell.

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                When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

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                NormDroid
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                Aye Android does it how it should be. I own a: Samsung 10.1 Tab 2 Nexus 7 (Cracked Screen/Digitizer) :(( HTC One Development learning curve is medium but well worth the rewards, especially when Android now has market share.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

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                  Android is the biggest and most popular malware I've ever known.

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                    Android is the biggest and most popular malware I've ever known.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Why? It works - on phones, on tablets it just works. So why call it malware? What are you comparing it to?

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                      I understand how a computer works down to motherboard component level and still just want to click "Send" over typing out some error prone and cryptic command in an archaic shell.

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                      Amen to that!

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

                        The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                        And not to forget, MS updates kills your data at a rate faster than you imagine, while in Droid I can set updates to Wi-Fi only.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Why? It works - on phones, on tablets it just works. So why call it malware? What are you comparing it to?

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          I regularly clear the ram on my Note 1 and a nice little message pops say it has closed 25 apps WTF, why do I have 25 apps active on the bloody phone when all it is doing is sitting there on the desk, they are obviously not essential to the operation of the phone!

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            I understand how a computer works down to motherboard component level and still just want to click "Send" over typing out some error prone and cryptic command in an archaic shell.

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                            Matthew Faithfull
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                            That's exactly my point. :)

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                              And not to forget, MS updates kills your data at a rate faster than you imagine, while in Droid I can set updates to Wi-Fi only.

                              Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                              GenJerDan
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                              :confused: My Windows phone won't update unless I'm connected to the computer. And won't do app updates unless I'm on WiFi or agree to use the 4G for it.

                              YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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                                When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

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                                OriginalGriff wrote:

                                , it just nags at you

                                I took the defaults when I setup the Surface, the only nagging I get are when it needs to reboot. My last android, it didn't offer an option not to reboot, just did it.


                                Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                  Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                  Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                                  I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                  jschell
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                                  Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                                  The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time.

                                  Pretty sure that any number of commercial organizations have touch the Linux core. I would actually be very surprised if every bit of code in the core hasn't been touched or reviewed by multiple commercial interests (by programmers paid to do just that.) I would suspect that much of the essential basics outside the core have also received some treatment by professionals. As one moves further and further from the basics is it possible that it is entirely amateur. However amateur likely only means that they were not paid to work on Linux (or associated) but not that they are not in fact professional programmers.

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                                    :shrug: would be a nice addition to the thin ico library :shrug:

                                    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    There's: :^) which conveys the same sentiment.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

                                      The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      I ended up giving away my Samsung Galaxy 7 because while the rest of the world was getting Android updates, my Sammy wasn't. Android fragmentation is still the #1 issue with Android. Well, that and the fact that crashing apps and even OS crashes seemed daily events.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                        Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                        Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                                        I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                        Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                        Yeah, amateurs like Intel, RedHat, Novell, Sun Microsystems. Have you even seen a Linux desk?

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                                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                          When I went to buy a tablet recently I purposely chose one with an Android OS. Never used Android and wanted to see what it was like and hate Windows 8 so the choice was a no brainer and so far I'm very impressed.

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                                          kiLLe_512
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                                          Yeah you obviously have not given Win8 a try on a decent tablet. Way way way impressed this side. But to each his own, we have a wide world with many spices. :)

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