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  • E Erudite_Eric

    In the midst of the global heart rending at hsi death, lets not forget just what he was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe[^] Umkhonto we Sizwe was set up by Mandella and has been responsible for many deaths and injuries. So yeah, Martin Luther King he isnt, Bin Laden he is. So lets keep things in perspective eh?

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    Lost User
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    One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. If you'd like to call him a terrorist, he would have loved to wear that badge with pride along with the likes of Che and Castro.

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      They were Traitors and should have hanged.

      --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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      Erudite_Eric
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      I am on their side actually. It was just the Englich Civil War part 2, fighting against a king trying to impose unjust taxation. In fact many at the time were also on their side, many British Officiers refused to take part in any attempt to control the rebellion.

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      • S Septimus Hedgehog

        Don't forget his ex-wife, Winnie. She apparently did her best to eradicate male virginity in SA while he was incarcerated doing porridge. When she did have intimate relations with him they were alluded to an iconic statue in Trafalgar Square like thus: Q. What slides up and down Nelson's Column? A. Winnie.

        If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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        X| Oh dear I may feel my lunch returning :laugh:

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        • E Erudite_Eric

          In the midst of the global heart rending at hsi death, lets not forget just what he was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe[^] Umkhonto we Sizwe was set up by Mandella and has been responsible for many deaths and injuries. So yeah, Martin Luther King he isnt, Bin Laden he is. So lets keep things in perspective eh?

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          So what's your take on Mandela/ANC compared to the regime they were fighting? Serious answer please.

          Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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          • E Erudite_Eric

            I am on their side actually. It was just the Englich Civil War part 2, fighting against a king trying to impose unjust taxation. In fact many at the time were also on their side, many British Officiers refused to take part in any attempt to control the rebellion.

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            Erudite_Eric wrote:

            unjust taxation

            I pity you. I never knew unjust taxation was a greater crime than apartheid.

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              Erudite_Eric wrote:

              And if you think thats abusive then you are a fool.

              Thank you, I'll wear that title with pride. It's abusive because you're merely making an issue out of it due to the emotional point that you don't like to ignore the fact that hero's and saint's do not exist by definition.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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              Erudite_Eric
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              What on earthis that supposed to mean? I am abusive because I am emotionally NOT ignoring the fact saints dont exist? How the hell does that work?

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                Erudite_Eric wrote:

                And if you think thats abusive then you are a fool.

                Thank you, I'll wear that title with pride. It's abusive because you're merely making an issue out of it due to the emotional point that you don't like to ignore the fact that hero's and saint's do not exist by definition.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                Well done :cool: [like I said on his post]

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                • E Erudite_Eric

                  In the midst of the global heart rending at hsi death, lets not forget just what he was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe[^] Umkhonto we Sizwe was set up by Mandella and has been responsible for many deaths and injuries. So yeah, Martin Luther King he isnt, Bin Laden he is. So lets keep things in perspective eh?

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                  Distind
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                  Someone died! Quick piss on the grave before they get him in!

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                    _Josh_ wrote:

                    FatBoy

                    Is that a combination of LittleBoy and FatMan?

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                    Erudite_Eric
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                    :)

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                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                      So what's your take on Mandela/ANC compared to the regime they were fighting? Serious answer please.

                      Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                      Of course aparthied was wrong, but it wasnt unique to SA, the US also had it, and it was also fought against, but passively. And thats the difference. King was a hero, Mandella a terrorist.

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                      • D Distind

                        Someone died! Quick piss on the grave before they get him in!

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                        Erudite_Eric
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                        How did you react when Bin Laden died?

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                        • E Erudite_Eric

                          In the midst of the global heart rending at hsi death, lets not forget just what he was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe[^] Umkhonto we Sizwe was set up by Mandella and has been responsible for many deaths and injuries. So yeah, Martin Luther King he isnt, Bin Laden he is. So lets keep things in perspective eh?

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                          • E Erudite_Eric

                            Of course aparthied was wrong, but it wasnt unique to SA, the US also had it, and it was also fought against, but passively. And thats the difference. King was a hero, Mandella a terrorist.

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                            But the level of oppression between the US and SA was also on quite different levels. Especially when you take the level of official oppression in account.

                            Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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                            • C CBadger

                              :wondering: *from all these madiba post (including this one), rants etc, who is actually born, raised and still living in RSA. :doh: Having opinion of who actually lived through all this? And would you dare admit you might be wrong? Luckily freedom of speech allows for own opinions :laugh: I am getting my popcorn, this is going to be a good one :-\

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                              Erudite_Eric
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                              Whats that got to do with it? OK, my dads from cape town, my brother lives there now. Does that make any difference? He was a terrorist, the world forgetting that fact shows how utterly two faced it is.

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                                Erudite_Eric wrote:

                                unjust taxation

                                I pity you. I never knew unjust taxation was a greater crime than apartheid.

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                                Erudite_Eric
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                                Is that supposed to be clever or something? I merely point out to Dave that I would be on the side of the english rebels and you attempt to make it look as if I think unjust taxation is worse than apartheid. Where did you fail to read the bit where I described Martin Luther King as noble and heroic for his passive fight against segregation? Oh sorry, yes, you just plain forgot to read that bit in your quest for cheap virtue by trying to paint me a racist. Idiot.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Even trolls should have respect for the dead.

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                                  Erudite_Eric
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                                  You respect Hitler do you? Ah, no thought not. Your morality is subjective isnt it....

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                                  • E Erudite_Eric

                                    Is that supposed to be clever or something? I merely point out to Dave that I would be on the side of the english rebels and you attempt to make it look as if I think unjust taxation is worse than apartheid. Where did you fail to read the bit where I described Martin Luther King as noble and heroic for his passive fight against segregation? Oh sorry, yes, you just plain forgot to read that bit in your quest for cheap virtue by trying to paint me a racist. Idiot.

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                                    Erudite_Eric wrote:

                                    Idiot.

                                    I kinda like your signature.

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                                    • E Erudite_Eric

                                      Whats that got to do with it? OK, my dads from cape town, my brother lives there now. Does that make any difference? He was a terrorist, the world forgetting that fact shows how utterly two faced it is.

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                                      CBadger
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                                      first read my post

                                      CBadger wrote:

                                      I am getting my popcorn, this is going to be a good one :-\

                                      secondly, you are quite a interesting trollie. How is it that the biggest empty cans make the most noise? :suss: I just read all your replies and statements and truly there is one definite answer to be found. (Not that I can really say it here for I do not want my post to be deleted and marked as 'Message has been automatically removed') :~ hold that thought let me just get more popcorn... :rolleyes:

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                                        first read my post

                                        CBadger wrote:

                                        I am getting my popcorn, this is going to be a good one :-\

                                        secondly, you are quite a interesting trollie. How is it that the biggest empty cans make the most noise? :suss: I just read all your replies and statements and truly there is one definite answer to be found. (Not that I can really say it here for I do not want my post to be deleted and marked as 'Message has been automatically removed') :~ hold that thought let me just get more popcorn... :rolleyes:

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                                        Erudite_Eric
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                                        CBadger wrote:

                                        first read my post

                                        I did. If you dont like my reply, try making your post more comprehensible.

                                        CBadger wrote:

                                        secondly, you are quite a interesting trollie.

                                        Oh really. Well I didnt post it to troll, merely to point out some facts.

                                        CBadger wrote:

                                        How is it that the biggest empty cans make the most noise?

                                        because they are big and empty?

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                                        Not that I can really say it here

                                        So take it to the soapbox and I will gladly reply.

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                                        • E Erudite_Eric

                                          You respect Hitler do you? Ah, no thought not. Your morality is subjective isnt it....

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                                          Godwin's Law[^]

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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