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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    It would be simpler to arm and train everyone to properly use a gun than to pretend that banning guns will work or stop killings.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    A small comparison with Switzerland: In Switzerland a majority of the male population is conscripted to the army and is required to keep an army rifle or assault rifle at home. Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in the world with 0.7 per 100,000 population. I'd say it is a matter of culture.

    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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      A small comparison with Switzerland: In Switzerland a majority of the male population is conscripted to the army and is required to keep an army rifle or assault rifle at home. Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in the world with 0.7 per 100,000 population. I'd say it is a matter of culture.

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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      Christian Graus
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      Agreed. And clearly, disarming people in the USA won't change that the country is awash with guns.

      Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Sorry mate - if you're going to make a statement like that you also need to open a thread in the SoapBox and direct the endless, subjective, selective, armchair commentary (from both sides) to that forum where it has space to grow and prosper.

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        It was just a statement: wasn't intended to elicit anything. However, if you feel it should be in the soapybox feel free to transfer it over.

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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        • J Jorgen Andersson

          A small comparison with Switzerland: In Switzerland a majority of the male population is conscripted to the army and is required to keep an army rifle or assault rifle at home. Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in the world with 0.7 per 100,000 population. I'd say it is a matter of culture.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Indeed.

          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            It was just a statement: wasn't intended to elicit anything. However, if you feel it should be in the soapybox feel free to transfer it over.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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            Christian Graus
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            Even if you sincerely believe it, it's clearly a discussion that belongs in the soapbox.

            Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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            • C Christian Graus

              Agreed. And clearly, disarming people in the USA won't change that the country is awash with guns.

              Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              So, how do one change the culture?

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                So, how do one change the culture?

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                I don't think it's possible, but the first step would be to stop the media from creating a culture of irrational fear. Another step would be to have a society without such huge gaps in opportunity and ability to sustain life comfortably. Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

                Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  A small comparison with Switzerland: In Switzerland a majority of the male population is conscripted to the army and is required to keep an army rifle or assault rifle at home. Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in the world with 0.7 per 100,000 population. I'd say it is a matter of culture.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                  Lost User
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                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                  I'd say it is a matter of culture.

                  Or in our case, a lack of it. :sigh: Too many people just do not understand the value of life.

                  Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Even if you sincerely believe it, it's clearly a discussion that belongs in the soapbox.

                    Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    Well, I don't agree but never mind.

                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      I don't think it's possible, but the first step would be to stop the media from creating a culture of irrational fear. Another step would be to have a society without such huge gaps in opportunity and ability to sustain life comfortably. Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

                      Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                      RaviBee
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I don't think it's possible,

                      Yes it is.  After some googling I found this: how to change a culture[^]. Crap - that's only a getter.  I told you I was sick. :) I meant this[^]. :-O /ravi

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        I don't think it's possible, but the first step would be to stop the media from creating a culture of irrational fear. Another step would be to have a society without such huge gaps in opportunity and ability to sustain life comfortably. Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

                        Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        Doing something about the media. - Agreed.

                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

                        You're probably right. I'm out of here, I'll check the soapbox tomorrow.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                          A small comparison with Switzerland: In Switzerland a majority of the male population is conscripted to the army and is required to keep an army rifle or assault rifle at home. Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in the world with 0.7 per 100,000 population. I'd say it is a matter of culture.

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Ah, but that's down to great chocolate, a cool knife and some seriously cuckoo clocks.

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                          • R R Giskard Reventlov

                            Well, I don't agree but never mind.

                            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                            Christian Graus
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                            You're welcome to post a link to a discussion you start in the soapbox. I promise to be civil in explaining to you why I think you're mistaken. I am sure you'll see soon enough why such a discussion does not belong in the lounge.

                            Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                            • R R Giskard Reventlov

                              It would be simpler to arm and train everyone to properly use a gun than to pretend that banning guns will work or stop killings.

                              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              :thumbsup::thumbsup:

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                              • J Jorgen Andersson

                                Doing something about the media. - Agreed.

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

                                You're probably right. I'm out of here, I'll check the soapbox tomorrow.

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Unless mark starts it, I probably won't pursue it. It's a broken record 'guns make us free, the government are scared of us because of our guns, etc'. yawn.

                                Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                                • P Pete OHanlon

                                  Ah, but that's down to great chocolate, a cool knife and some seriously cuckoo clocks.

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  And cheese, you forgot the cheese. Some years ago I wen't to Zug in Switzerland to install a server. During lunch I asked the people how to make a proper cheese fondue. During the next two hours I learned a lot about cheese, and Swiss culture.

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                                    And cheese, you forgot the cheese. Some years ago I wen't to Zug in Switzerland to install a server. During lunch I asked the people how to make a proper cheese fondue. During the next two hours I learned a lot about cheese, and Swiss culture.

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    There are holes in your argument.

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      You're welcome to post a link to a discussion you start in the soapbox. I promise to be civil in explaining to you why I think you're mistaken. I am sure you'll see soon enough why such a discussion does not belong in the lounge.

                                      Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                                      I have no doubt you'd be civil: that isn't the issue. I do, however, disagree that the conversation would be best discussed in the soapbox. I wasn't looking for a conversation, just expressing a personal view. Still, I'll put it over there and see what happens.

                                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                        It was just a statement: wasn't intended to elicit anything. However, if you feel it should be in the soapybox feel free to transfer it over.

                                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        Of course, Mark. Obviously one would never expect such a statement in this forum would elicit anything other than mild nods and everyone would move on, keyboard untouched.

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                                          Of course, Mark. Obviously one would never expect such a statement in this forum would elicit anything other than mild nods and everyone would move on, keyboard untouched.

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                                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                                          Hey! I can't be responsible for other people's reactions to what I write. :-)

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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