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  • C Christian Graus

    Even if you sincerely believe it, it's clearly a discussion that belongs in the soapbox.

    Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    Well, I don't agree but never mind.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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    • C Christian Graus

      I don't think it's possible, but the first step would be to stop the media from creating a culture of irrational fear. Another step would be to have a society without such huge gaps in opportunity and ability to sustain life comfortably. Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      I don't think it's possible,

      Yes it is.  After some googling I found this: how to change a culture[^]. Crap - that's only a getter.  I told you I was sick. :) I meant this[^]. :-O /ravi

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      • J Jorgen Andersson

        A small comparison with Switzerland: In Switzerland a majority of the male population is conscripted to the army and is required to keep an army rifle or assault rifle at home. Switzerland has one of the lowest murder rates in the world with 0.7 per 100,000 population. I'd say it is a matter of culture.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Ah, but that's down to great chocolate, a cool knife and some seriously cuckoo clocks.

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        • C Christian Graus

          I don't think it's possible, but the first step would be to stop the media from creating a culture of irrational fear. Another step would be to have a society without such huge gaps in opportunity and ability to sustain life comfortably. Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

          Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          Doing something about the media. - Agreed.

          Christian Graus wrote:

          Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

          You're probably right. I'm out of here, I'll check the soapbox tomorrow.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Well, I don't agree but never mind.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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            Christian Graus
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            You're welcome to post a link to a discussion you start in the soapbox. I promise to be civil in explaining to you why I think you're mistaken. I am sure you'll see soon enough why such a discussion does not belong in the lounge.

            Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              It would be simpler to arm and train everyone to properly use a gun than to pretend that banning guns will work or stop killings.

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              :thumbsup::thumbsup:

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                Doing something about the media. - Agreed.

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Could be headed towards soapbox territory....

                You're probably right. I'm out of here, I'll check the soapbox tomorrow.

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                Unless mark starts it, I probably won't pursue it. It's a broken record 'guns make us free, the government are scared of us because of our guns, etc'. yawn.

                Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Ah, but that's down to great chocolate, a cool knife and some seriously cuckoo clocks.

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  And cheese, you forgot the cheese. Some years ago I wen't to Zug in Switzerland to install a server. During lunch I asked the people how to make a proper cheese fondue. During the next two hours I learned a lot about cheese, and Swiss culture.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                    And cheese, you forgot the cheese. Some years ago I wen't to Zug in Switzerland to install a server. During lunch I asked the people how to make a proper cheese fondue. During the next two hours I learned a lot about cheese, and Swiss culture.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    There are holes in your argument.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      You're welcome to post a link to a discussion you start in the soapbox. I promise to be civil in explaining to you why I think you're mistaken. I am sure you'll see soon enough why such a discussion does not belong in the lounge.

                      Christian Graus My new article series is all about SQL !!!

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      I have no doubt you'd be civil: that isn't the issue. I do, however, disagree that the conversation would be best discussed in the soapbox. I wasn't looking for a conversation, just expressing a personal view. Still, I'll put it over there and see what happens.

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        It was just a statement: wasn't intended to elicit anything. However, if you feel it should be in the soapybox feel free to transfer it over.

                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        Of course, Mark. Obviously one would never expect such a statement in this forum would elicit anything other than mild nods and everyone would move on, keyboard untouched.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Of course, Mark. Obviously one would never expect such a statement in this forum would elicit anything other than mild nods and everyone would move on, keyboard untouched.

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          Hey! I can't be responsible for other people's reactions to what I write. :-)

                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                          • R R Giskard Reventlov

                            Hey! I can't be responsible for other people's reactions to what I write. :-)

                            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                            enhzflep
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                            No, of course not. But you'd hopefully understand that some people would see you as being 2 beers short of a six-pack for not anticipating them and acting accordingly.

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                            • J Jorgen Andersson

                              So, how do one change the culture?

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                              So, how do one change the culture?

                              Ship them all off to Switzerland. :-D

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                Of course, Mark. Obviously one would never expect such a statement in this forum would elicit anything other than mild nods and everyone would move on, keyboard untouched.

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                                Roger Wright
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                                Of course! I'm not commenting, even though I just spent three horrendous days in the Peoples' Republic of California unarmed by law, and subject to the mindless or malicious intent of any of the armed loonies that reside there, despite the law. Even though many who dwell here would benefit from learning that opinions and facts are different creatures, and no amount of wishful thinking will change facts, I'm not commenting... ;P

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                • J JimmyRopes

                                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                  So, how do one change the culture?

                                  Ship them all off to Switzerland. :-D

                                  The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                                  Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                  I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  What have the Swiss done to you?

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                                    What have the Swiss done to you?

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                    JimmyRopes
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                                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                    What have the Swiss done to you?

                                    Nothing. I was just commenting about how to change a culture. :-D

                                    The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                                    • enhzflepE enhzflep

                                      No, of course not. But you'd hopefully understand that some people would see you as being 2 beers short of a six-pack for not anticipating them and acting accordingly.

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                                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                                      enhzflep wrote:

                                      No, of course not. But you'd hopefully understand that some people would see you as being 2 beers short of a six-pack for not anticipating them and acting accordingly.

                                      Ha! That is, of course, the left wing, communist thinking of the nanny state. Why am I to be held responsible for other people's reactions? Are they children? Are they morons? No, only the people who think we have to be responsible for other people's thoughts and actions are morons. Hello, moron. :-)

                                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                        enhzflep wrote:

                                        No, of course not. But you'd hopefully understand that some people would see you as being 2 beers short of a six-pack for not anticipating them and acting accordingly.

                                        Ha! That is, of course, the left wing, communist thinking of the nanny state. Why am I to be held responsible for other people's reactions? Are they children? Are they morons? No, only the people who think we have to be responsible for other people's thoughts and actions are morons. Hello, moron. :-)

                                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                        enhzflep
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                                        I pointed out what to most normal people would be bleedingly obvious, yet you respond with what appears to be a direct and personal insult. Have a closer look - I never said I felt that way, nor subscribed to that view myself. I merely said that there would be people that thought that way. If your closing sentence was sarcasm, I'm sorry to admit it was lost on me. :laugh:

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                                        • enhzflepE enhzflep

                                          I pointed out what to most normal people would be bleedingly obvious, yet you respond with what appears to be a direct and personal insult. Have a closer look - I never said I felt that way, nor subscribed to that view myself. I merely said that there would be people that thought that way. If your closing sentence was sarcasm, I'm sorry to admit it was lost on me. :laugh:

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                                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                                          enhzflep wrote:

                                          I pointed out what to most normal people would be bleedingly obvious, yet you respond with what appears to be a direct and personal insult.

                                          I take it you left your sense of humor at home?

                                          enhzflep wrote:

                                          I'm sorry to admit it was lost on me.

                                          Yes, it appears it was. It was meant in humor: sorry if you were offended.

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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