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    Nish Nishant
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    Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.

    Regards, Nish


    Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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      Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.

      Regards, Nish


      Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      That's like this[^] case from 2 years ago in Florida. I have done this to warn other drivers that there's a cop on the prowl, and also to let others know they need to turn their headlights on.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.

        Regards, Nish


        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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        ZurdoDev
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        Interesting. I didn't see it mentioned in this article but I have seen this happen in the past and the police officers have actually charged people with interference of police business.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Interesting. I didn't see it mentioned in this article but I have seen this happen in the past and the police officers have actually charged people with interference of police business.

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Nish Nishant
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          I don't see how this is any different from mobile-apps that tell you where speed traps are or where cops are using radar/laser guns on a highway (updated live by its user base).

          Regards, Nish


          Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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            Interesting. I didn't see it mentioned in this article but I have seen this happen in the past and the police officers have actually charged people with interference of police business.

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              Nish Nishant
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              I recently found out that most red light cameras in Columbus, OH are operated by a private company who gets most of the profits from the fines, and the Police Department gets a percentage.

              Regards, Nish


              Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

                I had not realized there was ever a doubt of that... To serve (citations) and protect (government overhead).

                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                  ahmed zahmed wrote:

                  If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

                  I had not realized there was ever a doubt of that... To serve (citations) and protect (government overhead).

                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                  I never doubted it. Except maybe when an accident has occurred or running a stop sign (like I did once).

                  Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                  To serve (citations) and protect (government overhead).

                  :thumbsup: ;) :laugh:

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    I don't see how this is any different from mobile-apps that tell you where speed traps are or where cops are using radar/laser guns on a highway (updated live by its user base).

                    Regards, Nish


                    Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    True.

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      I recently found out that most red light cameras in Columbus, OH are operated by a private company who gets most of the profits from the fines, and the Police Department gets a percentage.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Yeah, I've read a few stories recently about that. I hear they're being successfully challenged in most cases. And it looks like the OH State Legislature is going to outlaw there use. Glad I no longer live there since 35+ years.

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        In college I studies OBDII (the technology for computers on vehicles) and found that they were talking about implementing a feature in a future version of OBD (on board diagnostics) to report your speed at various checkpoints along the road. So, if you were driving around and passed a sensor on the road going too fast your own car would report you to the police and a ticket would be in the mail before you even got home. Luckily, they haven't implemented that yet.

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          In college I studies OBDII (the technology for computers on vehicles) and found that they were talking about implementing a feature in a future version of OBD (on board diagnostics) to report your speed at various checkpoints along the road. So, if you were driving around and passed a sensor on the road going too fast your own car would report you to the police and a ticket would be in the mail before you even got home. Luckily, they haven't implemented that yet.

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          No doubt there would be a "black" market for disabling and/or distorting such devices.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            No doubt there would be a "black" market for disabling and/or distorting such devices.

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            Or guns. :) When they first put up the cameras on the light poles to do speeding tickets where I lived in California, after a while some people just shot them. :laugh:

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                              Yeah, I've read a few stories recently about that. I hear they're being successfully challenged in most cases. And it looks like the OH State Legislature is going to outlaw there use. Glad I no longer live there since 35+ years.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Where in OH were you?

                              Regards, Nish


                              Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                Or guns. :) When they first put up the cameras on the light poles to do speeding tickets where I lived in California, after a while some people just shot them. :laugh:

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                LOL. That could result in a much worse charge and punishment than a traffic ticket.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  Where in OH were you?

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  I lived in Columbus when I was a kid.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                    I lived in Columbus when I was a kid.

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Interesting. Good to know :-)

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                      LOL. That could result in a much worse charge and punishment than a traffic ticket.

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                      :)

                                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                        Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                        GuyThiebaut
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                                        So ,communicating with someone and telling them not to break the law when a cop is present is illegal :wtf: Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.

                                        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                        ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                          If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

                                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          All fines are about money, nby definition. Jail time or license suspension would be a deterrent.

                                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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