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  • N Nish Nishant

    I don't see how this is any different from mobile-apps that tell you where speed traps are or where cops are using radar/laser guns on a highway (updated live by its user base).

    Regards, Nish


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    ZurdoDev
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    True.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    • N Nish Nishant

      I recently found out that most red light cameras in Columbus, OH are operated by a private company who gets most of the profits from the fines, and the Police Department gets a percentage.

      Regards, Nish


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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      Yeah, I've read a few stories recently about that. I hear they're being successfully challenged in most cases. And it looks like the OH State Legislature is going to outlaw there use. Glad I no longer live there since 35+ years.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        In college I studies OBDII (the technology for computers on vehicles) and found that they were talking about implementing a feature in a future version of OBD (on board diagnostics) to report your speed at various checkpoints along the road. So, if you were driving around and passed a sensor on the road going too fast your own car would report you to the police and a ticket would be in the mail before you even got home. Luckily, they haven't implemented that yet.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          In college I studies OBDII (the technology for computers on vehicles) and found that they were talking about implementing a feature in a future version of OBD (on board diagnostics) to report your speed at various checkpoints along the road. So, if you were driving around and passed a sensor on the road going too fast your own car would report you to the police and a ticket would be in the mail before you even got home. Luckily, they haven't implemented that yet.

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          No doubt there would be a "black" market for disabling and/or distorting such devices.

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            No doubt there would be a "black" market for disabling and/or distorting such devices.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            ZurdoDev
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            Or guns. :) When they first put up the cameras on the light poles to do speeding tickets where I lived in California, after a while some people just shot them. :laugh:

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              Yeah, I've read a few stories recently about that. I hear they're being successfully challenged in most cases. And it looks like the OH State Legislature is going to outlaw there use. Glad I no longer live there since 35+ years.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              Nish Nishant
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              Where in OH were you?

              Regards, Nish


              Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                Or guns. :) When they first put up the cameras on the light poles to do speeding tickets where I lived in California, after a while some people just shot them. :laugh:

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                LOL. That could result in a much worse charge and punishment than a traffic ticket.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Where in OH were you?

                  Regards, Nish


                  Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  I lived in Columbus when I was a kid.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    I lived in Columbus when I was a kid.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Interesting. Good to know :-)

                    Regards, Nish


                    Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                      LOL. That could result in a much worse charge and punishment than a traffic ticket.

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      :)

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                        GuyThiebaut
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                        So ,communicating with someone and telling them not to break the law when a cop is present is illegal :wtf: Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.

                        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          All fines are about money, nby definition. Jail time or license suspension would be a deterrent.

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            All fines are about money, nby definition. Jail time or license suspension would be a deterrent.

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            fines are about money

                            True, but not all infractions or charges are about raising revenue, like most traffic tickets.

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              fines are about money

                              True, but not all infractions or charges are about raising revenue, like most traffic tickets.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                              Name one that isn't.

                              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                Name one that isn't.

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                I'm sure if I were to name one that you'd argue that it's primary purpose is about raising revenue. And I might agree with you if it were a common event like traffic ticketing. But robbing a bank, for instance, is not a common event, at least not with the frequency of traffic tickets. Even some traffic tickets, especially those associated with traffic accidents, are not primarily about raising revenue.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                • G GuyThiebaut

                                  So ,communicating with someone and telling them not to break the law when a cop is present is illegal :wtf: Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.

                                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                  GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                  Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.

                                  No none of this is about that. Ticketing to increase revenue is a direct revenue increase. Thus the government entity gets more money. Corporate jails cost the government more money. More inmates means less money for the government.

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                                    GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                    Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.

                                    No none of this is about that. Ticketing to increase revenue is a direct revenue increase. Thus the government entity gets more money. Corporate jails cost the government more money. More inmates means less money for the government.

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                                    In the world of big money, corporations and government agencies - one tends to find that, strangely enough, those working at the top of government agencies often happen to find themselves with places on the boards of those corporations when they retire. I'm sure it's all above board and I am just a cynic...

                                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                      In the world of big money, corporations and government agencies - one tends to find that, strangely enough, those working at the top of government agencies often happen to find themselves with places on the boards of those corporations when they retire. I'm sure it's all above board and I am just a cynic...

                                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                      GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                      places on the boards

                                      GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                      above board

                                      So they can just drop right in...

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                        *excellent*

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                                          *excellent*

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          You fast car folks probably need this a little more than us Honda/Toyota drivers. :rolleyes:

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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