Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.
I had not realized there was ever a doubt of that... To serve (citations) and protect (government overhead).
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
I never doubted it. Except maybe when an accident has occurred or running a stop sign (like I did once).
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
To serve (citations) and protect (government overhead).
:thumbsup: ;) :laugh:
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I don't see how this is any different from mobile-apps that tell you where speed traps are or where cops are using radar/laser guns on a highway (updated live by its user base).
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I recently found out that most red light cameras in Columbus, OH are operated by a private company who gets most of the profits from the fines, and the Police Department gets a percentage.
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Yeah, I've read a few stories recently about that. I hear they're being successfully challenged in most cases. And it looks like the OH State Legislature is going to outlaw there use. Glad I no longer live there since 35+ years.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinIn college I studies OBDII (the technology for computers on vehicles) and found that they were talking about implementing a feature in a future version of OBD (on board diagnostics) to report your speed at various checkpoints along the road. So, if you were driving around and passed a sensor on the road going too fast your own car would report you to the police and a ticket would be in the mail before you even got home. Luckily, they haven't implemented that yet.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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In college I studies OBDII (the technology for computers on vehicles) and found that they were talking about implementing a feature in a future version of OBD (on board diagnostics) to report your speed at various checkpoints along the road. So, if you were driving around and passed a sensor on the road going too fast your own car would report you to the police and a ticket would be in the mail before you even got home. Luckily, they haven't implemented that yet.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
No doubt there would be a "black" market for disabling and/or distorting such devices.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
No doubt there would be a "black" market for disabling and/or distorting such devices.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinOr guns. :) When they first put up the cameras on the light poles to do speeding tickets where I lived in California, after a while some people just shot them. :laugh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yeah, I've read a few stories recently about that. I hear they're being successfully challenged in most cases. And it looks like the OH State Legislature is going to outlaw there use. Glad I no longer live there since 35+ years.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinWhere in OH were you?
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Or guns. :) When they first put up the cameras on the light poles to do speeding tickets where I lived in California, after a while some people just shot them. :laugh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
LOL. That could result in a much worse charge and punishment than a traffic ticket.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Where in OH were you?
Regards, Nish
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I lived in Columbus when I was a kid.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
I lived in Columbus when I was a kid.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinInteresting. Good to know :-)
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LOL. That could result in a much worse charge and punishment than a traffic ticket.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.
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So ,communicating with someone and telling them not to break the law when a cop is present is illegal :wtf: Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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If that is true, then that only proves the assertion by many that traffic ticketing is mostly for raising revenue rather than traffic safety. Police Officers then become nothing more than armed tax collectors.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinAll fines are about money, nby definition. Jail time or license suspension would be a deterrent.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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All fines are about money, nby definition. Jail time or license suspension would be a deterrent.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
fines are about money
True, but not all infractions or charges are about raising revenue, like most traffic tickets.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
fines are about money
True, but not all infractions or charges are about raising revenue, like most traffic tickets.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinName one that isn't.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Name one that isn't.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
I'm sure if I were to name one that you'd argue that it's primary purpose is about raising revenue. And I might agree with you if it were a common event like traffic ticketing. But robbing a bank, for instance, is not a common event, at least not with the frequency of traffic tickets. Even some traffic tickets, especially those associated with traffic accidents, are not primarily about raising revenue.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
So ,communicating with someone and telling them not to break the law when a cop is present is illegal :wtf: Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
GuyThiebaut wrote:
Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.
No none of this is about that. Ticketing to increase revenue is a direct revenue increase. Thus the government entity gets more money. Corporate jails cost the government more money. More inmates means less money for the government.
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
Although it does make sense given the privatisation of jails in the US and the consequent drive to jail people for profit.
No none of this is about that. Ticketing to increase revenue is a direct revenue increase. Thus the government entity gets more money. Corporate jails cost the government more money. More inmates means less money for the government.
In the world of big money, corporations and government agencies - one tends to find that, strangely enough, those working at the top of government agencies often happen to find themselves with places on the boards of those corporations when they retire. I'm sure it's all above board and I am just a cynic...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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In the world of big money, corporations and government agencies - one tends to find that, strangely enough, those working at the top of government agencies often happen to find themselves with places on the boards of those corporations when they retire. I'm sure it's all above board and I am just a cynic...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
GuyThiebaut wrote:
places on the boards
GuyThiebaut wrote:
above board
So they can just drop right in...
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Judge rules trucker flashing headlights is free speech[^] I've never done this, but have had others do it to me - not that I was speeding on any of those occasions.
Regards, Nish
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*excellent*