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  • P phil o

    Can you define 'right'?

    [Flags]
    public enum Bool {
    True, False, ForSure, Maybe, ProbablyNot, Depends, NotDecidedYet, Undefined
    }

    private interface IStealth { }

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    Marc Clifton
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    You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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      Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

      		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
      		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
      

      How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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      Nish Nishant
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      Regards, Nish


      Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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        Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

        		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
        		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
        

        How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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        Deflinek
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        I'm not quite sure what was unexpected here. If you mean the ProcessCarrierAnimations() never gets called if (more == true) then it really was expected :) However changing || to | will make it called regardless of more's value.

        -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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          You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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          phil o
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          Maybe, if I could see the content of both methods that return a bool :) Otherwise, quite hard to detect a logic issue when the logic itself is not told.

          [Flags]
          public enum Bool {
          True, False, ForSure, Maybe, ProbablyNot, Depends, NotDecidedYet, Undefined
          }

          private interface IStealth { }

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

            		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
            		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
            

            How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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            BobJanova
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            It will run either ProcessFlyouts, or ProcessCarrierAnimations, or neither, and the variable will tell you if it successfully ran either. I would imagine you either want && or |.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

              		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
              		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
              

              How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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              OriginalGriff
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              I assume you meant it to do this:

              bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
              more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

              :laugh: Would do the same in C and C++ as well.

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                

                How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                I assume that you want to run the second method if first returns true, if that the case you have to switch the order

                bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  Regards, Nish


                  Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Exactly. :)

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                    I'm not quite sure what was unexpected here. If you mean the ProcessCarrierAnimations() never gets called if (more == true) then it really was expected :) However changing || to | will make it called regardless of more's value.

                    -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    deflinek wrote:

                    However changing || to | will make it called regardless of more's value.

                    Yup! Marc

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                    • B BobJanova

                      It will run either ProcessFlyouts, or ProcessCarrierAnimations, or neither, and the variable will tell you if it successfully ran either. I would imagine you either want && or |.

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Yup. | Marc

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I assume you meant it to do this:

                        bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                        more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                        :laugh: Would do the same in C and C++ as well.

                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                        Quite so. The bitwise | operator solves the problem too. Marc

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          I assume that you want to run the second method if first returns true, if that the case you have to switch the order

                          bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                          more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                          Marc Clifton
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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                          you have to switch the order

                          Yes indeed. Or use the bitwise operator. Marc

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                            Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                            		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                            		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                            

                            How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                            Rage
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                            MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

                            The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
                            The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

                            The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

                            ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                              Quite so. The bitwise | operator solves the problem too. Marc

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              Yes - but I don't like bitwise operators with bools...

                              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              • N Nish Nishant

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                                Regards, Nish


                                Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                Rage
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                                Yep, but this is a workaround, not a best practice though.

                                ~RaGE();

                                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                  you have to switch the order

                                  Yes indeed. Or use the bitwise operator. Marc

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                                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                  I do not like that change from C/C++...I mean the | and || changes... X|

                                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                  • R Rage

                                    MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

                                    The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
                                    The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

                                    The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

                                    ~RaGE();

                                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                    BobJanova
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                                    There's actually some nice concise uses of

                                    var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                                    var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                                    It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                                      Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                      		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                      		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                      

                                      How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                      Keith Barrow
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                                      Though Nish's and OG's examples will work, I think it is symantically better to do this:

                                      bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                      bool foo = ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                      more = more || foo;

                                      Less terse code (normally bad) - but explicit in calling ProcessCarrierAnimations.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                        		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                        		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                        

                                        How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        more |= ProcessCarrierAnimations(); ?

                                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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                                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :)

                                          Riiiiiiiiiiight!!! :)

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