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  • D Deflinek

    I'm not quite sure what was unexpected here. If you mean the ProcessCarrierAnimations() never gets called if (more == true) then it really was expected :) However changing || to | will make it called regardless of more's value.

    -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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    Marc Clifton
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    deflinek wrote:

    However changing || to | will make it called regardless of more's value.

    Yup! Marc

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    • B BobJanova

      It will run either ProcessFlyouts, or ProcessCarrierAnimations, or neither, and the variable will tell you if it successfully ran either. I would imagine you either want && or |.

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      Yup. | Marc

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I assume you meant it to do this:

        bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
        more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

        :laugh: Would do the same in C and C++ as well.

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        Marc Clifton
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

        Quite so. The bitwise | operator solves the problem too. Marc

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          I assume that you want to run the second method if first returns true, if that the case you have to switch the order

          bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
          more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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          Marc Clifton
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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

          you have to switch the order

          Yes indeed. Or use the bitwise operator. Marc

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

            		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
            		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
            

            How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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            Rage
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            MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

            The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
            The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

            The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              OriginalGriff wrote:

              more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

              Quite so. The bitwise | operator solves the problem too. Marc

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              OriginalGriff
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              Yes - but I don't like bitwise operators with bools...

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              • N Nish Nishant

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                Regards, Nish


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                Rage
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                Yep, but this is a workaround, not a best practice though.

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                  you have to switch the order

                  Yes indeed. Or use the bitwise operator. Marc

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  I do not like that change from C/C++...I mean the | and || changes... X|

                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • R Rage

                    MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

                    The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
                    The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

                    The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                    BobJanova
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                    There's actually some nice concise uses of

                    var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                    var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                    It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                      		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                      		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                      

                      How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      Though Nish's and OG's examples will work, I think it is symantically better to do this:

                      bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                      bool foo = ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                      more = more || foo;

                      Less terse code (normally bad) - but explicit in calling ProcessCarrierAnimations.

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                      I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                        		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                        		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                        

                        How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        more |= ProcessCarrierAnimations(); ?

                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :)

                          Riiiiiiiiiiight!!! :)

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                          • B BobJanova

                            There's actually some nice concise uses of

                            var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                            var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                            It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                            Rage
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                            Let's say I have never seen these two lines of code, OK ?

                            ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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                              Simon_Whale
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                              Have you been to QA lately? :laugh:

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                

                                How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                Andy Brummer
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                                var more = more || initalizeMore(); is a common practice in javascript.

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                                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                  I do not like that change from C/C++...I mean the | and || changes... X|

                                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                  Forogar
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                                  This isn't a change from C++. It works the same way for both operators. Doesn't it? Now I'm going to have to read up on it, dammit!

                                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                  • B BobJanova

                                    There's actually some nice concise uses of

                                    var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                                    var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                                    It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                                    Forogar
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                                    Ouch! && Ouch! || Ouch!

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                      		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                      		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                      

                                      How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Now, I'm not going to look at the other answers before I post so I don't know if others have got it right, or if there are additional nuggets of information. If ProcessFlyouts returns true then the second test isn't carried out - it's a conditional OR statement. So, if you want ProcessCarrierAnimations to be evaluated, convert it to

                                      more = more | ProcessCarrierAnimations();

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                                      • F Forogar

                                        This isn't a change from C++. It works the same way for both operators. Doesn't it? Now I'm going to have to read up on it, dammit!

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                        You have to! Otherwise you may end up with some mess if updating C/C++ to C# (what I'm doing just now)...

                                        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                                        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                        • K Keith Barrow

                                          Though Nish's and OG's examples will work, I think it is symantically better to do this:

                                          bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                          bool foo = ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                          more = more || foo;

                                          Less terse code (normally bad) - but explicit in calling ProcessCarrierAnimations.

                                          PB 369,783 wrote:

                                          I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          "Eliminate needless local variables." :-D

                                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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