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  • M Marc Clifton

    Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

    		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
    		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
    

    How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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    Rage
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    MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

    The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
    The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

    The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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    • M Marc Clifton

      OriginalGriff wrote:

      more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

      Quite so. The bitwise | operator solves the problem too. Marc

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      OriginalGriff
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      Yes - but I don't like bitwise operators with bools...

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        Regards, Nish


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        Rage
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        Yep, but this is a workaround, not a best practice though.

        ~RaGE();

        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

          you have to switch the order

          Yes indeed. Or use the bitwise operator. Marc

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          I do not like that change from C/C++...I mean the | and || changes... X|

          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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            MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

            The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
            The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

            The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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            BobJanova
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            There's actually some nice concise uses of

            var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
            var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

            It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

              		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
              		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
              

              How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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              Keith Barrow
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              Though Nish's and OG's examples will work, I think it is symantically better to do this:

              bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
              bool foo = ProcessCarrierAnimations();
              more = more || foo;

              Less terse code (normally bad) - but explicit in calling ProcessCarrierAnimations.

              PB 369,783 wrote:

              I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                

                How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                more |= ProcessCarrierAnimations(); ?

                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :)

                  Riiiiiiiiiiight!!! :)

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                  • B BobJanova

                    There's actually some nice concise uses of

                    var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                    var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                    It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                    Rage
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                    Let's say I have never seen these two lines of code, OK ?

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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                      Simon_Whale
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                      Have you been to QA lately? :laugh:

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                        		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                        		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                        

                        How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                        Andy Brummer
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                        var more = more || initalizeMore(); is a common practice in javascript.

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          I do not like that change from C/C++...I mean the | and || changes... X|

                          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                          Forogar
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                          This isn't a change from C++. It works the same way for both operators. Doesn't it? Now I'm going to have to read up on it, dammit!

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          • B BobJanova

                            There's actually some nice concise uses of

                            var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                            var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                            It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                            Forogar
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                            Ouch! && Ouch! || Ouch!

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                              		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                              		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                              

                              How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Now, I'm not going to look at the other answers before I post so I don't know if others have got it right, or if there are additional nuggets of information. If ProcessFlyouts returns true then the second test isn't carried out - it's a conditional OR statement. So, if you want ProcessCarrierAnimations to be evaluated, convert it to

                              more = more | ProcessCarrierAnimations();

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                                This isn't a change from C++. It works the same way for both operators. Doesn't it? Now I'm going to have to read up on it, dammit!

                                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                You have to! Otherwise you may end up with some mess if updating C/C++ to C# (what I'm doing just now)...

                                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                • K Keith Barrow

                                  Though Nish's and OG's examples will work, I think it is symantically better to do this:

                                  bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                  bool foo = ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                  more = more || foo;

                                  Less terse code (normally bad) - but explicit in calling ProcessCarrierAnimations.

                                  PB 369,783 wrote:

                                  I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  "Eliminate needless local variables." :-D

                                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                  • R Rage

                                    MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

                                    The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
                                    The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

                                    The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

                                    ~RaGE();

                                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    I never follow other peoples' rules. :cool:

                                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      You have to! Otherwise you may end up with some mess if updating C/C++ to C# (what I'm doing just now)...

                                      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                      Forogar
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                                      Nah! As long as it compiles...

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                        Nah! As long as it compiles...

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                        Yeah! It compiles. After then you can rub your head to find where the bug is!

                                        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                                        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                          		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                          		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                          

                                          How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                          Richard Andrew x64
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                                          How about:

                                          more &= ProcessCarrierAnimations();

                                          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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