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  • M Marc Clifton

    You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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    phil o
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    Maybe, if I could see the content of both methods that return a bool :) Otherwise, quite hard to detect a logic issue when the logic itself is not told.

    [Flags]
    public enum Bool {
    True, False, ForSure, Maybe, ProbablyNot, Depends, NotDecidedYet, Undefined
    }

    private interface IStealth { }

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

      		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
      		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
      

      How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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      It will run either ProcessFlyouts, or ProcessCarrierAnimations, or neither, and the variable will tell you if it successfully ran either. I would imagine you either want && or |.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

        		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
        		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
        

        How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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        OriginalGriff
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        I assume you meant it to do this:

        bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
        more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

        :laugh: Would do the same in C and C++ as well.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

          		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
          		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
          

          How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          I assume that you want to run the second method if first returns true, if that the case you have to switch the order

          bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
          more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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          • N Nish Nishant

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            Regards, Nish


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            Marc Clifton
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            Exactly. :)

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            • D Deflinek

              I'm not quite sure what was unexpected here. If you mean the ProcessCarrierAnimations() never gets called if (more == true) then it really was expected :) However changing || to | will make it called regardless of more's value.

              -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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              Marc Clifton
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              deflinek wrote:

              However changing || to | will make it called regardless of more's value.

              Yup! Marc

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              • B BobJanova

                It will run either ProcessFlyouts, or ProcessCarrierAnimations, or neither, and the variable will tell you if it successfully ran either. I would imagine you either want && or |.

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                Marc Clifton
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                Yup. | Marc

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I assume you meant it to do this:

                  bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                  more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                  :laugh: Would do the same in C and C++ as well.

                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                  Quite so. The bitwise | operator solves the problem too. Marc

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    I assume that you want to run the second method if first returns true, if that the case you have to switch the order

                    bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                    more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                    you have to switch the order

                    Yes indeed. Or use the bitwise operator. Marc

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                      		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                      		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                      

                      How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                      Rage
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                      MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

                      The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
                      The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

                      The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        more = ProcessCarrierAnimations() || more;

                        Quite so. The bitwise | operator solves the problem too. Marc

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Yes - but I don't like bitwise operators with bools...

                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • N Nish Nishant

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                          Regards, Nish


                          Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                          Rage
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                          Yep, but this is a workaround, not a best practice though.

                          ~RaGE();

                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                            you have to switch the order

                            Yes indeed. Or use the bitwise operator. Marc

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                            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                            I do not like that change from C/C++...I mean the | and || changes... X|

                            I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                            "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                              MISRA[^] Rule 33 & 34:

                              The right hand operand of a || shall not contain side effects
                              The operands of a logical || shall be primary expressions

                              The example you gave is the very reason for the above two rules.

                              ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                              There's actually some nice concise uses of

                              var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                              var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                              It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                

                                How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                Keith Barrow
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                                Though Nish's and OG's examples will work, I think it is symantically better to do this:

                                bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                bool foo = ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                more = more || foo;

                                Less terse code (normally bad) - but explicit in calling ProcessCarrierAnimations.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                  		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                  		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                  

                                  How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  more |= ProcessCarrierAnimations(); ?

                                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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                                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :)

                                    Riiiiiiiiiiight!!! :)

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                                    • B BobJanova

                                      There's actually some nice concise uses of

                                      var result = DoSomething() && DoSomethingThatDependsOnIt();
                                      var result = DoSomething() || HandleFailureCase();

                                      It's even better in languages where you can use non-boolean types with the boolean operators.

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                                      Rage
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                                      Let's say I have never seen these two lines of code, OK ?

                                      ~RaGE();

                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        You should be able to glean what the programmer intends to happen from the code. :) Marc

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                                        Simon_Whale
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                                        Have you been to QA lately? :laugh:

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Programming Quiz of the day. I just wrote this code (C#), which did something very unexpected. What was it that it unexpectedly did?

                                          		bool more = ProcessFlyouts();
                                          		more = more || ProcessCarrierAnimations();
                                          

                                          How would you change it to "do the right thing?" Marc

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                                          Andy Brummer
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                                          var more = more || initalizeMore(); is a common practice in javascript.

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