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C is a better language than any language you care to name.

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  • L Lost User

    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    It's like just as soon as computers get faster, we want to make the languages more bloated.

    ...and it flows straight down to our operating systems and applications. IMHO - A fresh Windows 2K and Office 2K install is still the fastest, cleanest, most productive Microsoft office stack ever made.

    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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    ...for about a week....:laugh:

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    • R Ravi Bhavnani

      Define "better". /ravi

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      "Someone who gambles"

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        "Someone who gambles"

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        Isn't that "bettor"? /ravi

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          C and AOL is there anything else?

          Here today gone to Maui...

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          NetScape Navigator?

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • C Chris Losinger

            C++ is better.

            image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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            It's twice as good.

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Roger Wright wrote:

              Then came C, and the death spiral of useful language development began.

              It's like just as soon as computers get faster, we want to make the languages more bloated. That way we never enjoy the new speed, we simply keep things the same and have a new cool shiny layer that sounds technical to toss on top of it. I've never made a programming language, but when I think of something like Ruby, which has some nice features, and then I think it's slow as dirt so I'll never use it. Just because CPUs are faster doesn't mean we can waste cycles, otherwise it's always a game of catch up.

              Jeremy Falcon

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              Lua is not bloated, for instance.

              Veni, vidi, vici.

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              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                Define "better". /ravi

                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                'C'

                Veni, vidi, vici.

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  Isn't that "bettor"? /ravi

                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  You bet.

                  Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                  • C CPallini

                    'C'

                    Veni, vidi, vici.

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                    How about iC instead? Apple inspired :laugh:

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Discuss. I've just read The Unreasonable Effectiveness of C[^] and decided to outsource my ranting response to it

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      D language[^] is better. It combines the simplicity of C and avoids all the kludginess of C++ for the same elegance you see in C#. Plus...no *.H files or #defines !!!! :) Plus garbage collection!

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Discuss. I've just read The Unreasonable Effectiveness of C[^] and decided to outsource my ranting response to it

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Golden Days!^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          Define "better". /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          Unfortunately, if you don't know it could never be explained to you.

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          • L Lost User

                            You bet.

                            Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                            Look, a Who tribute band. You better bet your life...

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                              D language[^] is better. It combines the simplicity of C and avoids all the kludginess of C++ for the same elegance you see in C#. Plus...no *.H files or #defines !!!! :) Plus garbage collection!

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                              DaveX86 wrote:

                              Plus garbage collection!

                              As Is Well Understood and Universally Accepted: "You don't need garbage collection if your code is not garbage!"

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              • E ed welch

                                That article is all wrong. The guy assumes that just because a feature exists you are forced to use it. Most expercienced c++ programers are only using a small subset of the language.

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                                And even then, there are 4 sub-languages to C++: - C backward compatibility - C++ - STL - Template meta-programming How you use C++ primarily depends on which one of the sub-languages you are using for that portion of the program.

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                                • K Kenneth Haugland

                                  How about iC instead? Apple inspired :laugh:

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                                  Oh, I'm in love with iC[^].

                                  Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                    Look, a Who tribute band. You better bet your life...

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                                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                                    Who's next? /ravi

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                                      Unfortunately, if you don't know it could never be explained to you.

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                                      So what's your definition of "better" (as applied to a programming language)? /ravi

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                                      • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                        So what's your definition of "better" (as applied to a programming language)? /ravi

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                                        HERE^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Discuss. I've just read The Unreasonable Effectiveness of C[^] and decided to outsource my ranting response to it

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Joe Woodbury
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                                          I agree. C is like a great macro assembler. These days, I prefer C with classes. In other words, mostly C, but using the C++ compiler and RAII and very light weight, thin classes. Above all, it's deterministic. This is the one thing I really dislike about C# and other garbage collected languages. I think it's often abused in C++, where being fancy all too often overrides elegant simplicity.

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