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C is a better language than any language you care to name.

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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    C and AOL is there anything else?

    Here today gone to Maui...

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    NetScape Navigator?

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    • C Chris Losinger

      C++ is better.

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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      ZurdoDev
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      It's twice as good.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        Roger Wright wrote:

        Then came C, and the death spiral of useful language development began.

        It's like just as soon as computers get faster, we want to make the languages more bloated. That way we never enjoy the new speed, we simply keep things the same and have a new cool shiny layer that sounds technical to toss on top of it. I've never made a programming language, but when I think of something like Ruby, which has some nice features, and then I think it's slow as dirt so I'll never use it. Just because CPUs are faster doesn't mean we can waste cycles, otherwise it's always a game of catch up.

        Jeremy Falcon

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        Lua is not bloated, for instance.

        Veni, vidi, vici.

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        • R Ravi Bhavnani

          Define "better". /ravi

          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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          'C'

          Veni, vidi, vici.

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          • R Ravi Bhavnani

            Isn't that "bettor"? /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            You bet.

            Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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            • C CPallini

              'C'

              Veni, vidi, vici.

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              Kenneth Haugland
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              How about iC instead? Apple inspired :laugh:

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Discuss. I've just read The Unreasonable Effectiveness of C[^] and decided to outsource my ranting response to it

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                D language[^] is better. It combines the simplicity of C and avoids all the kludginess of C++ for the same elegance you see in C#. Plus...no *.H files or #defines !!!! :) Plus garbage collection!

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Discuss. I've just read The Unreasonable Effectiveness of C[^] and decided to outsource my ranting response to it

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Golden Days!^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                    Define "better". /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    Unfortunately, if you don't know it could never be explained to you.

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • L Lost User

                      You bet.

                      Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                      Look, a Who tribute band. You better bet your life...

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                        D language[^] is better. It combines the simplicity of C and avoids all the kludginess of C++ for the same elegance you see in C#. Plus...no *.H files or #defines !!!! :) Plus garbage collection!

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                        DaveX86 wrote:

                        Plus garbage collection!

                        As Is Well Understood and Universally Accepted: "You don't need garbage collection if your code is not garbage!"

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        • E ed welch

                          That article is all wrong. The guy assumes that just because a feature exists you are forced to use it. Most expercienced c++ programers are only using a small subset of the language.

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                          Paul M Watt
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                          And even then, there are 4 sub-languages to C++: - C backward compatibility - C++ - STL - Template meta-programming How you use C++ primarily depends on which one of the sub-languages you are using for that portion of the program.

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                          • K Kenneth Haugland

                            How about iC instead? Apple inspired :laugh:

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                            Oh, I'm in love with iC[^].

                            Veni, vidi, vici.

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                              Look, a Who tribute band. You better bet your life...

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Who's next? /ravi

                              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                              • W W Balboos GHB

                                Unfortunately, if you don't know it could never be explained to you.

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Ravi Bhavnani
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                                So what's your definition of "better" (as applied to a programming language)? /ravi

                                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                  So what's your definition of "better" (as applied to a programming language)? /ravi

                                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  HERE^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    Discuss. I've just read The Unreasonable Effectiveness of C[^] and decided to outsource my ranting response to it

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Joe Woodbury
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                                    I agree. C is like a great macro assembler. These days, I prefer C with classes. In other words, mostly C, but using the C++ compiler and RAII and very light weight, thin classes. Above all, it's deterministic. This is the one thing I really dislike about C# and other garbage collected languages. I think it's often abused in C++, where being fancy all too often overrides elegant simplicity.

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                                      HERE^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                                      <sigh> We're all very impressed. /ravi

                                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                      • D DaveX86

                                        D language[^] is better. It combines the simplicity of C and avoids all the kludginess of C++ for the same elegance you see in C#. Plus...no *.H files or #defines !!!! :) Plus garbage collection!

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                                        Garbage collection is a flaw, not a feature. It not only sucks resources, it creates a huge unknown. Some of the most difficult problems I've dealt with were with garbage collection (in one recent case, we never did solve the problem--some the most brilliant engineers I know also failed to solve it. Around the same time, we tracked things back to a lesser known bug in the .NET 4.0 garbage collector.)

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Discuss. I've just read The Unreasonable Effectiveness of C[^] and decided to outsource my ranting response to it

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          Discuss.

                                          Arrays decay into pointers.[^] X| Or, for more details: C's Biggest Mistake[^]

                                          utf8-cpp

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