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  • C Colborne_Greg

    I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

    Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
    Try
    AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

        For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
            Try
                AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                    (
                        New Image With
                        {
                            .Height = 150,
                            .Width = 150,
                            .Source = RotateStream \_
                            (
                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                            )
                        }
                    )
            Catch
            End Try
        Next
    Catch
    End Try
    

    End Sub

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    PIEBALDconsult
    wrote on last edited by
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    What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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      Colborne_Greg
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      #4

      With operator

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      • C Colborne_Greg

        I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

        Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
        Try
        AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

            For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                Try
                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                        (
                            New Image With
                            {
                                .Height = 150,
                                .Width = 150,
                                .Source = RotateStream \_
                                (
                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                )
                            }
                        )
                Catch
                End Try
            Next
        Catch
        End Try
        

        End Sub

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        Richard Deeming
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Colborne_Greg wrote:

        that no other language can do

        Pretty bold statement, given it's followed by a code block that could easily be converted to C#. ;P


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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        • C Colborne_Greg

          I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

          Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
          Try
          AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

              For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                  Try
                      AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                          (
                              New Image With
                              {
                                  .Height = 150,
                                  .Width = 150,
                                  .Source = RotateStream \_
                                  (
                                      Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                      Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                  )
                              }
                          )
                  Catch
                  End Try
              Next
          Catch
          End Try
          

          End Sub

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          Simon_Whale
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          I would make sure you have your flame proof pants on..

          Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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            Pete OHanlon
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            I suspect he's talking about the With block. Of course, as the With statement was introduced to fix a defect in VB in the first place...

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              Colborne_Greg wrote:

              that no other language can do

              Pretty bold statement, given it's followed by a code block that could easily be converted to C#. ;P


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              Colborne_Greg
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              no with operator in C#

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              • C Colborne_Greg

                With operator

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                Richard Deeming
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                Just because you don't need the extra keyword doesn't mean that C# can't do it:

                new Image
                {
                Height = 150,
                Width = 150,
                Source = RotateStream
                (
                Pictures.Album[AlbumName].Picture,
                Pictures.Album[AlbumName].Angle
                )
                }


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • C Colborne_Greg

                  no with operator in C#

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                  Richard Deeming
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  See my answer to your other post - you don't need the With operator in C# for object or collection initializers.


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    I suspect he's talking about the With block. Of course, as the With statement was introduced to fix a defect in VB in the first place...

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                    Colborne_Greg
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    its not a with block, "new image with"

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                    • C Colborne_Greg

                      no with operator in C#

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                      PIEBALDconsult
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      As well there shouldn't be. C# doesn't need it.

                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                      • C Colborne_Greg

                        its not a with block, "new image with"

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                        Simon_Whale
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        and you can do the same in C# without the need for "with" keyword

                        Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                        • C Colborne_Greg

                          no with operator in C#

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                          Dr Walt Fair PE
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          fortunately, no with operator in C#

                          FTFY

                          CQ de W5ALT

                          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                          • C Colborne_Greg

                            its not a with block, "new image with"

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                            Richard Deeming
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                            #15

                            Colborne_Greg wrote:

                            its not a with block

                            It's an object initializer, which is fully supported in C#, without needing an extra keyword. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb384062.aspx[^]


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                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                            • C Colborne_Greg

                              its not a with block, "new image with"

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                              Pete OHanlon
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              So, the same as Auto-initialisation in C# then.

                              new Image{ Height = 150, Width= 150 }

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                              • C Colborne_Greg

                                I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                Try
                                AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                    For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                        Try
                                            AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                (
                                                    New Image With
                                                    {
                                                        .Height = 150,
                                                        .Width = 150,
                                                        .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                        (
                                                            Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                            Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                        )
                                                    }
                                                )
                                        Catch
                                        End Try
                                    Next
                                Catch
                                End Try
                                

                                End Sub

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                                JMK NI
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                                #17

                                You can write code that fails completely silently in other languages too :doh:

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                                • C Colborne_Greg

                                  no with operator in C#

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                                  Pete OHanlon
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  I have to say, you walked right into that one.

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                                  • J JMK NI

                                    You can write code that fails completely silently in other languages too :doh:

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                                    Colborne_Greg
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    That code doesn't fail

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                                    • C Colborne_Greg

                                      I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                      Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                      Try
                                      AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                          For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                              Try
                                                  AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                      (
                                                          New Image With
                                                          {
                                                              .Height = 150,
                                                              .Width = 150,
                                                              .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                              (
                                                                  Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                  Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                              )
                                                          }
                                                      )
                                              Catch
                                              End Try
                                          Next
                                      Catch
                                      End Try
                                      

                                      End Sub

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                                      Lost User
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #20

                                      Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                      Catch End Try

                                      No, it doesn't need more credit; and your example sums up nicely why VB got that reputation :) Yes, you can swallow exceptions in other languages too, but it doesn't happen as often there as it does in VB.

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                      • C Colborne_Greg

                                        I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                        Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                        Try
                                        AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                            For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                                Try
                                                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                        (
                                                            New Image With
                                                            {
                                                                .Height = 150,
                                                                .Width = 150,
                                                                .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                                (
                                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                                )
                                                            }
                                                        )
                                                Catch
                                                End Try
                                            Next
                                        Catch
                                        End Try
                                        

                                        End Sub

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                                        Jorgen Andersson
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        I totally agree on that most of the complaints about VB is of the immature kind. But one thing I need to give them is the On Error Resume abomination. Which you sadly have emulated with your empty Catch. :sigh: My personal opinion is that since C# and VB.Net is based on the same CLR and the same Framework, most quarrels are just silly. Use what you feel most at home with, but stop being ridiculous about it!

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          I have to say, you walked right into that one.

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                                          Colborne_Greg
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #22

                                          No better way to learn. I was told that C# and visual basic are the same language but I can find things in Visual Basic that are not in C# and things in C# that are not in Visual Basic

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