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  • C Colborne_Greg

    I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

    Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
    Try
    AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

        For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
            Try
                AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                    (
                        New Image With
                        {
                            .Height = 150,
                            .Width = 150,
                            .Source = RotateStream \_
                            (
                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                            )
                        }
                    )
            Catch
            End Try
        Next
    Catch
    End Try
    

    End Sub

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    Richard Deeming
    wrote on last edited by
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    Colborne_Greg wrote:

    that no other language can do

    Pretty bold statement, given it's followed by a code block that could easily be converted to C#. ;P


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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    • C Colborne_Greg

      I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

      Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
      Try
      AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

          For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
              Try
                  AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                      (
                          New Image With
                          {
                              .Height = 150,
                              .Width = 150,
                              .Source = RotateStream \_
                              (
                                  Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                  Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                              )
                          }
                      )
              Catch
              End Try
          Next
      Catch
      End Try
      

      End Sub

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      Simon_Whale
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      I would make sure you have your flame proof pants on..

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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        Pete OHanlon
        wrote on last edited by
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        I suspect he's talking about the With block. Of course, as the With statement was introduced to fix a defect in VB in the first place...

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        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

          Colborne_Greg wrote:

          that no other language can do

          Pretty bold statement, given it's followed by a code block that could easily be converted to C#. ;P


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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          Colborne_Greg
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          no with operator in C#

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          • C Colborne_Greg

            With operator

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            Richard Deeming
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            Just because you don't need the extra keyword doesn't mean that C# can't do it:

            new Image
            {
            Height = 150,
            Width = 150,
            Source = RotateStream
            (
            Pictures.Album[AlbumName].Picture,
            Pictures.Album[AlbumName].Angle
            )
            }


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • C Colborne_Greg

              no with operator in C#

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              Richard Deeming
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              See my answer to your other post - you don't need the With operator in C# for object or collection initializers.


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              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                I suspect he's talking about the With block. Of course, as the With statement was introduced to fix a defect in VB in the first place...

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                Colborne_Greg
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                its not a with block, "new image with"

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                • C Colborne_Greg

                  no with operator in C#

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                  PIEBALDconsult
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  As well there shouldn't be. C# doesn't need it.

                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                  • C Colborne_Greg

                    its not a with block, "new image with"

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                    Simon_Whale
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    and you can do the same in C# without the need for "with" keyword

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                    • C Colborne_Greg

                      no with operator in C#

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                      Dr Walt Fair PE
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      Colborne_Greg wrote:

                      fortunately, no with operator in C#

                      FTFY

                      CQ de W5ALT

                      Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                      • C Colborne_Greg

                        its not a with block, "new image with"

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                        Richard Deeming
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                        #15

                        Colborne_Greg wrote:

                        its not a with block

                        It's an object initializer, which is fully supported in C#, without needing an extra keyword. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb384062.aspx[^]


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                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                        • C Colborne_Greg

                          its not a with block, "new image with"

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                          Pete OHanlon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          So, the same as Auto-initialisation in C# then.

                          new Image{ Height = 150, Width= 150 }

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                          • C Colborne_Greg

                            I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                            Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                            Try
                            AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                    Try
                                        AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                            (
                                                New Image With
                                                {
                                                    .Height = 150,
                                                    .Width = 150,
                                                    .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                    (
                                                        Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                        Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                    )
                                                }
                                            )
                                    Catch
                                    End Try
                                Next
                            Catch
                            End Try
                            

                            End Sub

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                            JMK NI
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                            #17

                            You can write code that fails completely silently in other languages too :doh:

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                            • C Colborne_Greg

                              no with operator in C#

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                              Pete OHanlon
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              I have to say, you walked right into that one.

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                              • J JMK NI

                                You can write code that fails completely silently in other languages too :doh:

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                                Colborne_Greg
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                That code doesn't fail

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                                • C Colborne_Greg

                                  I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                  Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                  Try
                                  AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                      For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                          Try
                                              AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                  (
                                                      New Image With
                                                      {
                                                          .Height = 150,
                                                          .Width = 150,
                                                          .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                          (
                                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                          )
                                                      }
                                                  )
                                          Catch
                                          End Try
                                      Next
                                  Catch
                                  End Try
                                  

                                  End Sub

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                                  Lost User
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                  Catch End Try

                                  No, it doesn't need more credit; and your example sums up nicely why VB got that reputation :) Yes, you can swallow exceptions in other languages too, but it doesn't happen as often there as it does in VB.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                  • C Colborne_Greg

                                    I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                    Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                    Try
                                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                        For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                            Try
                                                AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                    (
                                                        New Image With
                                                        {
                                                            .Height = 150,
                                                            .Width = 150,
                                                            .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                            (
                                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                            )
                                                        }
                                                    )
                                            Catch
                                            End Try
                                        Next
                                    Catch
                                    End Try
                                    

                                    End Sub

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    I totally agree on that most of the complaints about VB is of the immature kind. But one thing I need to give them is the On Error Resume abomination. Which you sadly have emulated with your empty Catch. :sigh: My personal opinion is that since C# and VB.Net is based on the same CLR and the same Framework, most quarrels are just silly. Use what you feel most at home with, but stop being ridiculous about it!

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      I have to say, you walked right into that one.

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                                      Colborne_Greg
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      No better way to learn. I was told that C# and visual basic are the same language but I can find things in Visual Basic that are not in C# and things in C# that are not in Visual Basic

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                        Catch End Try

                                        No, it doesn't need more credit; and your example sums up nicely why VB got that reputation :) Yes, you can swallow exceptions in other languages too, but it doesn't happen as often there as it does in VB.

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                        Colborne_Greg
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        That's just laziness and the expectation that it works 100% of the time

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                                        • C Colborne_Greg

                                          I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                          Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                          Try
                                          AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                              For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                                  Try
                                                      AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                          (
                                                              New Image With
                                                              {
                                                                  .Height = 150,
                                                                  .Width = 150,
                                                                  .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                                  (
                                                                      Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                      Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                                  )
                                                              }
                                                          )
                                                  Catch
                                                  End Try
                                              Next
                                          Catch
                                          End Try
                                          

                                          End Sub

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                                          ZurdoDev
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          I do miss the with operator. I have cases where it could save hundreds of characters and make it way easier to read. Don't listen to the C# purists. :zzz:

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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