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Leading climate scientists call on religious leaders to help save the environment

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

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    jeron1
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    We could have a global version of the attempted climate control event that occured at a small music festival in 1969. "Hey, if you think real hard, maybe we can stop the rain ice melt! "No melt, no melt, no melt...." and before long, current concerns will magically melt away.

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

      Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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      chriselst
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      It's ridiculous in a quaintly old fashioned way to believe praying can change anything. Everyone knows that it is Facebook likes that you need to make things happen.

      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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      • M Munchies_Matt

        'would' 'warns' 'might'... sounds like every other GW story I read.

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Or like anything written by a Real scientist. It's morons who don't know what they're talking about who talk in absolutes.

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        • M Munchies_Matt

          Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

          Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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          Mladen Jankovic
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          I think you're about to start two flame wars with a single post. That is an accomplishment I must say. Why haven't you throw US elections into the post too?

          GALex - Advanced C++ Library for Genetic Algorithms

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            Or like anything written by a Real scientist. It's morons who don't know what they're talking about who talk in absolutes.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Munchies_Matt
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            That's sounded like an absoloute statement.

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              That's sounded like an absoloute statement.

              Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              It wasn't based on a scientific study.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                BillWoodruff
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                This could be a hard sell since many religious leaders deeply believe in some form of Eschaton, or Apocalypse, and may think it's close at hand, and well-deserved, because of our ... fill in the blank ... inherently sinful nature ... sinful behavior ... wickedness ... greed ... ? Perhaps re-forestation and fostering carbon sequestration could be sold as a form of "penance" for those religions which really lay the guilt-trip thing on thick ?

                « There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad. » Salvador Dali

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  It wasn't based on a scientific study.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Munchies_Matt
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                  So just personal opinion then.

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                    It's ridiculous in a quaintly old fashioned way to believe praying can change anything. Everyone knows that it is Facebook likes that you need to make things happen.

                    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                    Mladen Jankovic
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                    chriselst wrote:

                    Everyone knows that it is Facebook likes that you need to make things happen.

                    Indeed[^]

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                      This could be a hard sell since many religious leaders deeply believe in some form of Eschaton, or Apocalypse, and may think it's close at hand, and well-deserved, because of our ... fill in the blank ... inherently sinful nature ... sinful behavior ... wickedness ... greed ... ? Perhaps re-forestation and fostering carbon sequestration could be sold as a form of "penance" for those religions which really lay the guilt-trip thing on thick ?

                      « There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad. » Salvador Dali

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      Interesting reply. Of course GW is just another doomsday religion that demands sacrifice so the implication here is that these scientists, knowing this, are trying to get existing proponents of one doomsday/sacrifice model to absorb their particular doomsday/sacrifice model. Its almost like asking them to change religion. :)

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                        Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                        bryce
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                        because the sky is falling?

                        MCAD ---

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          So just personal opinion then.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Well, duh! Look where we are. Here's the scientific version: Scientific training includes quite a lot on being precise, which includes being precise about the fact that everything we think we know could be wrong. People who are more interested in talking loudest than being precise aren't bound by that, so are more likely to spout absolute bollocks as if it were absolutely and incontestably true. Happy now?

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • M Munchies_Matt

                            Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                            Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                            BobJanova
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                            Lots of people listen to spiritual leaders and ignore what science tells them, particularly if it's inconvenient. So it seems like a pretty sensible move to me.

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                              Well, duh! Look where we are. Here's the scientific version: Scientific training includes quite a lot on being precise, which includes being precise about the fact that everything we think we know could be wrong. People who are more interested in talking loudest than being precise aren't bound by that, so are more likely to spout absolute bollocks as if it were absolutely and incontestably true. Happy now?

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              Men who say 'duh' are feeble minded imitators of brainless spoilt girls form the valleys.

                              Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                                Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                                Lost User
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                                Yeah, they have quite a bit in common actually. Dooms day cults should be particularly responsive... :)

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                                • M Munchies_Matt

                                  Men who say 'duh' are feeble minded imitators of brainless spoilt girls form the valleys.

                                  Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  What-Everr, Bubbola.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • M Mark_Wallace

                                    What-Everr, Bubbola.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    Yep, feeble minded.

                                    Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      Yep, feeble minded.

                                      Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      Lordy, Lordy. Not really full of yourself, are you? We'll have to add auto-cannibalism to the dictionary to accommodate you. And "duh", by the way, is from Chaucer. Us educated types look in that direction, rather than hang on the words of cheerleaders.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        Lordy, Lordy. Not really full of yourself, are you? We'll have to add auto-cannibalism to the dictionary to accommodate you. And "duh", by the way, is from Chaucer. Us educated types look in that direction, rather than hang on the words of cheerleaders.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        Munchies_Matt
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                                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                        duh", by the way, is from Chaucer

                                        Cite please.

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                                        • M Munchies_Matt

                                          Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                                          Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                                          If I pray and the ice stops melting, then what? :confused:

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