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Leading climate scientists call on religious leaders to help save the environment

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    That's sounded like an absoloute statement.

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    Mark_Wallace
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    It wasn't based on a scientific study.

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

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      BillWoodruff
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      This could be a hard sell since many religious leaders deeply believe in some form of Eschaton, or Apocalypse, and may think it's close at hand, and well-deserved, because of our ... fill in the blank ... inherently sinful nature ... sinful behavior ... wickedness ... greed ... ? Perhaps re-forestation and fostering carbon sequestration could be sold as a form of "penance" for those religions which really lay the guilt-trip thing on thick ?

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        It wasn't based on a scientific study.

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        Munchies_Matt
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        So just personal opinion then.

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        • C chriselst

          It's ridiculous in a quaintly old fashioned way to believe praying can change anything. Everyone knows that it is Facebook likes that you need to make things happen.

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          chriselst wrote:

          Everyone knows that it is Facebook likes that you need to make things happen.

          Indeed[^]

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          • B BillWoodruff

            This could be a hard sell since many religious leaders deeply believe in some form of Eschaton, or Apocalypse, and may think it's close at hand, and well-deserved, because of our ... fill in the blank ... inherently sinful nature ... sinful behavior ... wickedness ... greed ... ? Perhaps re-forestation and fostering carbon sequestration could be sold as a form of "penance" for those religions which really lay the guilt-trip thing on thick ?

            « There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad. » Salvador Dali

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Interesting reply. Of course GW is just another doomsday religion that demands sacrifice so the implication here is that these scientists, knowing this, are trying to get existing proponents of one doomsday/sacrifice model to absorb their particular doomsday/sacrifice model. Its almost like asking them to change religion. :)

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

              Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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              bryce
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              because the sky is falling?

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                So just personal opinion then.

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Well, duh! Look where we are. Here's the scientific version: Scientific training includes quite a lot on being precise, which includes being precise about the fact that everything we think we know could be wrong. People who are more interested in talking loudest than being precise aren't bound by that, so are more likely to spout absolute bollocks as if it were absolutely and incontestably true. Happy now?

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                  Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                  BobJanova
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                  Lots of people listen to spiritual leaders and ignore what science tells them, particularly if it's inconvenient. So it seems like a pretty sensible move to me.

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    Well, duh! Look where we are. Here's the scientific version: Scientific training includes quite a lot on being precise, which includes being precise about the fact that everything we think we know could be wrong. People who are more interested in talking loudest than being precise aren't bound by that, so are more likely to spout absolute bollocks as if it were absolutely and incontestably true. Happy now?

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                    Munchies_Matt
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                    Men who say 'duh' are feeble minded imitators of brainless spoilt girls form the valleys.

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                      Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                      Lost User
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                      Yeah, they have quite a bit in common actually. Dooms day cults should be particularly responsive... :)

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        Men who say 'duh' are feeble minded imitators of brainless spoilt girls form the valleys.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        What-Everr, Bubbola.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          What-Everr, Bubbola.

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          Yep, feeble minded.

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                          • M Munchies_Matt

                            Yep, feeble minded.

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Lordy, Lordy. Not really full of yourself, are you? We'll have to add auto-cannibalism to the dictionary to accommodate you. And "duh", by the way, is from Chaucer. Us educated types look in that direction, rather than hang on the words of cheerleaders.

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              Lordy, Lordy. Not really full of yourself, are you? We'll have to add auto-cannibalism to the dictionary to accommodate you. And "duh", by the way, is from Chaucer. Us educated types look in that direction, rather than hang on the words of cheerleaders.

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              duh", by the way, is from Chaucer

                              Cite please.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                                Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                                Lost User
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                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                                If I pray and the ice stops melting, then what? :confused:

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                                • M Munchies_Matt

                                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                  duh", by the way, is from Chaucer

                                  Cite please.

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Here[^]

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                                  • M Mark_Wallace

                                    Here[^]

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    SO that makes you a liar then. Of course Chaucer never said 'duh'. Only a complete idiot would think so.

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      SO that makes you a liar then. Of course Chaucer never said 'duh'. Only a complete idiot would think so.

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      What's really remarkable is that you think you can troll me. Beh, these frenchmen are all crazy.

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        What's really remarkable is that you think you can troll me. Beh, these frenchmen are all crazy.

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                                        Munchies_Matt
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                                        Troll you? No, just pointing out your bullshit. Oh, and I am English. Which is one of the reasons I am familiar with Chaucer.

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                                        • M Munchies_Matt

                                          Troll you? No, just pointing out your bullshit. Oh, and I am English. Which is one of the reasons I am familiar with Chaucer.

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          Oh, and I am English.

                                          Look, we're all friends, here, there's no need for you to be ashamed of being French.

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          Which is one of the reasons I am familiar with Chaucer.

                                          Obviously not.

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