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Leading climate scientists call on religious leaders to help save the environment

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

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    BillWoodruff
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    This could be a hard sell since many religious leaders deeply believe in some form of Eschaton, or Apocalypse, and may think it's close at hand, and well-deserved, because of our ... fill in the blank ... inherently sinful nature ... sinful behavior ... wickedness ... greed ... ? Perhaps re-forestation and fostering carbon sequestration could be sold as a form of "penance" for those religions which really lay the guilt-trip thing on thick ?

    « There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad. » Salvador Dali

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      It wasn't based on a scientific study.

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      Munchies_Matt
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      So just personal opinion then.

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        It's ridiculous in a quaintly old fashioned way to believe praying can change anything. Everyone knows that it is Facebook likes that you need to make things happen.

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        chriselst wrote:

        Everyone knows that it is Facebook likes that you need to make things happen.

        Indeed[^]

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          This could be a hard sell since many religious leaders deeply believe in some form of Eschaton, or Apocalypse, and may think it's close at hand, and well-deserved, because of our ... fill in the blank ... inherently sinful nature ... sinful behavior ... wickedness ... greed ... ? Perhaps re-forestation and fostering carbon sequestration could be sold as a form of "penance" for those religions which really lay the guilt-trip thing on thick ?

          « There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad. » Salvador Dali

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          Munchies_Matt
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          Interesting reply. Of course GW is just another doomsday religion that demands sacrifice so the implication here is that these scientists, knowing this, are trying to get existing proponents of one doomsday/sacrifice model to absorb their particular doomsday/sacrifice model. Its almost like asking them to change religion. :)

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          • M Munchies_Matt

            Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

            Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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            bryce
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            because the sky is falling?

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              So just personal opinion then.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Well, duh! Look where we are. Here's the scientific version: Scientific training includes quite a lot on being precise, which includes being precise about the fact that everything we think we know could be wrong. People who are more interested in talking loudest than being precise aren't bound by that, so are more likely to spout absolute bollocks as if it were absolutely and incontestably true. Happy now?

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                BobJanova
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                Lots of people listen to spiritual leaders and ignore what science tells them, particularly if it's inconvenient. So it seems like a pretty sensible move to me.

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  Well, duh! Look where we are. Here's the scientific version: Scientific training includes quite a lot on being precise, which includes being precise about the fact that everything we think we know could be wrong. People who are more interested in talking loudest than being precise aren't bound by that, so are more likely to spout absolute bollocks as if it were absolutely and incontestably true. Happy now?

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                  Munchies_Matt
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                  Men who say 'duh' are feeble minded imitators of brainless spoilt girls form the valleys.

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                  • M Munchies_Matt

                    Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                    Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                    Lost User
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                    Yeah, they have quite a bit in common actually. Dooms day cults should be particularly responsive... :)

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      Men who say 'duh' are feeble minded imitators of brainless spoilt girls form the valleys.

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      What-Everr, Bubbola.

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        What-Everr, Bubbola.

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                        Munchies_Matt
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                        Yep, feeble minded.

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          Yep, feeble minded.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Lordy, Lordy. Not really full of yourself, are you? We'll have to add auto-cannibalism to the dictionary to accommodate you. And "duh", by the way, is from Chaucer. Us educated types look in that direction, rather than hang on the words of cheerleaders.

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                            Lordy, Lordy. Not really full of yourself, are you? We'll have to add auto-cannibalism to the dictionary to accommodate you. And "duh", by the way, is from Chaucer. Us educated types look in that direction, rather than hang on the words of cheerleaders.

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            Mark_Wallace wrote:

                            duh", by the way, is from Chaucer

                            Cite please.

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              Two of the world’s leading scientists have made an unprecedented call on religious leaders to spark a “massive mobilisation of public opinion”, insisting that only through God can we save the environment.[^] So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                              Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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                              Lost User
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                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              So praying to god is going to stop ice melting is it?

                              If I pray and the ice stops melting, then what? :confused:

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                duh", by the way, is from Chaucer

                                Cite please.

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                Here[^]

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                                • M Mark_Wallace

                                  Here[^]

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  SO that makes you a liar then. Of course Chaucer never said 'duh'. Only a complete idiot would think so.

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                                    SO that makes you a liar then. Of course Chaucer never said 'duh'. Only a complete idiot would think so.

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    What's really remarkable is that you think you can troll me. Beh, these frenchmen are all crazy.

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                                      What's really remarkable is that you think you can troll me. Beh, these frenchmen are all crazy.

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      Troll you? No, just pointing out your bullshit. Oh, and I am English. Which is one of the reasons I am familiar with Chaucer.

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                                        Troll you? No, just pointing out your bullshit. Oh, and I am English. Which is one of the reasons I am familiar with Chaucer.

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        Oh, and I am English.

                                        Look, we're all friends, here, there's no need for you to be ashamed of being French.

                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        Which is one of the reasons I am familiar with Chaucer.

                                        Obviously not.

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                                        • M Mark_Wallace

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          Oh, and I am English.

                                          Look, we're all friends, here, there's no need for you to be ashamed of being French.

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          Which is one of the reasons I am familiar with Chaucer.

                                          Obviously not.

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                                          Munchies_Matt
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                                          Among the most interesting words Chaucer used are 'eek' and 'woning'. No? Unless you don't know his work as well as you profess...

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