VS 2013 Community ISO file size is enormous
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A typical game is extremely graphic and audio and video heavy though. That's to be expected. Not sure what they could possibly have 7GB worth of for VS.
Jeremy Falcon
Up until last year, the largest game only required 20 GB. That's where most of them have been hovering. I've given up on buying games in the store, as cool as it is to physically possess something. When I install, its just going to initiate the download over the Internet anyway. I'm curious how much of that content is not related to the installer that needs to setup the correct environment. Then I'm curious how much of the remaining content is executable code and not embedded resources, configuration files, images etc.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
That's not what I said;
Wait no... I'm not going through this again with you. You really need to get out more. Meet people man. Learn some social skills. :doh:
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I'm not going through this again with you.
Ah, you're a veteran? :)
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
You really need to get out more. Meet people man.
There more people I meet, the more cynical I get. I call it experience.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Learn some social skills. :doh:
You're not just saying that because I like the VS-IDE?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I'm not going through this again with you.
Ah, you're a veteran? :)
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
You really need to get out more. Meet people man.
There more people I meet, the more cynical I get. I call it experience.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Learn some social skills. :doh:
You're not just saying that because I like the VS-IDE?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
There more people I meet, the more cynical I get. I call it experience.
Cynicism and over-critical defensiveness expressed as a result of not really engaging in what's being really said in the first place are not one and the same.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
You're not just saying that because I like the VS-IDE?
No. It's because of your lack of tact. For the record, I too like VS. Yet, I still think 7GB is bloated.
Jeremy Falcon
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Albert Holguin wrote:
Why doesn't he start to learn with gcc/g++?
He actually asked about C since that was the last language that he worked with back in the late 80's, so I was really targeting the c++ feature...then figured, wte, he has a new computer with more space and horsepower than he'll ever need, so just install everything, and this seemed to fit the bill.
Albert Holguin wrote:
people have little incentive to make packages small with storage getting cheaper
Very true!, add 'unlimited bandwidth' to the mix.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Well I've used VS a lot over the years and definitely think it's one of the best products to come out of MS. With that said though, recently it seems like they're just putting out versions just to charge for upgrades (which makes me start to dislike VS).
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kmoorevs wrote:
does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
No, not compared to the 40 GB download required for the latest installment of "Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare"
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I looked online and the trial version of Ultimate is a DVD9 image as well. The one I have is from my old MSDN sub. So apparently, there's something extra in all versions you can download over the public web.
Jeremy Falcon
So, I'm installing onto a Win8.1 system and these the installable components listed. 0: Blend 1: MFC Classes for C++ 2: SQL Server Data Tools ? 3: MS Web Developer Tools 4: Tools for Maintaining Store Apps for Win8 5: Silverlight Development Kit 6: Windows Phone 8.0 SDK This laptop already had SQL 2012 and 2014 installed, so I'm not sure I'll be able to tell what SQL Server Data Tools are part of the install...Install is running...we'll see. :)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
I downloaded the VS 2015 CTP this weekend and it is also about that large. I copied it to a USB backup drive thingy. To make matters worse, I tried the same with SQL Server 2014 and it refused to run unless I burned it to a DVD. :mad:
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
The thought of using 35 different frameworks for Hello World seems rather daunting
Don't forget at least two Design Patterns and a Methodology! ;)
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kmoorevs wrote:
WTE have they packaged into this thing?
A LOT. Now, I do have some hobby-projects at home but those are being built using SharpDevelop. One can run that from USB, it's light and pretty quick. ..because at home I do not need a state-of-the-art IDE; there's no TFS to integrate, no IIS to contact, no EF6 nor MMMVC9 in my projects. All that's required there is some simple way of building, some syntax highligting and that's about it. MonoDevelop would even do the trick :)
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I do not need a state-of-the-art IDE; there's no TFS to integrate, no IIS to contact, no EF6 nor MMMVC9
Nor in most of what I do.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
some syntax highligting
Nope, not even that. I just want Turbo C#. :-D
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That's what I was going to suggest... maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO (which you don't need if you're online).
Albert Holguin wrote:
maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO
For the past few years, "the entire documentation" for VS has only been ten bytes in size: "google.com".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Albert Holguin wrote:
maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO
For the past few years, "the entire documentation" for VS has only been ten bytes in size: "google.com".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
ten twenty bytes
FTFY. For C#, that is.
Your time will come, if you let it be right.
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To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
ten twenty bytes
FTFY. For C#, that is.
Your time will come, if you let it be right.
Hmm. To the naked eye, it looks the same in utf-8, too.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Tend to agree, Microsoft needs to peel back the installer and downloader with options, do we need SQL Server, no!, do we need C++, no!, do we need this shite, no!, what we want is options and it compiles runs and delivers package, don't care about the other stuff. On the other side, I've got beaglebone, (intention is .net) and tried to download pre windows 10 version which over 8 gig (as you have to build yourself or package it), flick, that's bleep##, umm do need all that rubbish, just want the arm code, and not as an image, all I want is to add my drivers for i/o, a/d etc.. to the build, Flick how difficult can student make it!:thumbsdown:, don't want the the rubbish!
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I remember whenever games console memory cards where 1MB, and you were outraged when a single game took up the full 1MB storage space (or close to it!) Now 40GB is meh.
Um, when I first started playing computer games, it was 1K, not a whole meg! A meg was HUGE! By 'eck, it were Luxury!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Shoot. You just shifted my paradigm. :doh:
Well run it up the flagpole, and see if anyone salutes it!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Thanks for the experience. I only have three words to say: MOVE TO PYTHON! Quickly!!
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To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
You can copy it to your USB-stick. You only have to 'unzip' your ISO-file and then copy the unzipped folder to your USB-stick; you'll see it'll work.
