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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    The thought of using 35 different frameworks for Hello World seems rather daunting

    Don't forget at least two Design Patterns and a Methodology! ;)

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    Shoot. You just shifted my paradigm. :doh:

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      kmoorevs wrote:

      WTE have they packaged into this thing?

      A LOT. Now, I do have some hobby-projects at home but those are being built using SharpDevelop. One can run that from USB, it's light and pretty quick. ..because at home I do not need a state-of-the-art IDE; there's no TFS to integrate, no IIS to contact, no EF6 nor MMMVC9 in my projects. All that's required there is some simple way of building, some syntax highligting and that's about it. MonoDevelop would even do the trick :)

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      I do not need a state-of-the-art IDE; there's no TFS to integrate, no IIS to contact, no EF6 nor MMMVC9

      Nor in most of what I do.

      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      some syntax highligting

      Nope, not even that. I just want Turbo C#. :-D

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      • A Albert Holguin

        That's what I was going to suggest... maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO (which you don't need if you're online).

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Albert Holguin wrote:

        maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO

        For the past few years, "the entire documentation" for VS has only been ten bytes in size: "google.com".

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Albert Holguin wrote:

          maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO

          For the past few years, "the entire documentation" for VS has only been ten bytes in size: "google.com".

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Mark_Wallace wrote:

          ten twenty bytes

          FTFY. For C#, that is.

          Your time will come, if you let it be right.

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            To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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            shrknt35
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            kmoorevs wrote:

            'the file is too large for the destination file system' :WTF:

            Just set the File System to NTFS. Problem solved.

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              To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              kiLLe_512
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              Format the darn stick as NTFS. Fat32 only supports 4 gb file size.

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                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                ten twenty bytes

                FTFY. For C#, that is.

                Your time will come, if you let it be right.

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                Hmm. To the naked eye, it looks the same in utf-8, too.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • K kmoorevs

                  To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  Mr Ed Auckland NZ
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                  Tend to agree, Microsoft needs to peel back the installer and downloader with options, do we need SQL Server, no!, do we need C++, no!, do we need this shite, no!, what we want is options and it compiles runs and delivers package, don't care about the other stuff. On the other side, I've got beaglebone, (intention is .net) and tried to download pre windows 10 version which over 8 gig (as you have to build yourself or package it), flick, that's bleep##, umm do need all that rubbish, just want the arm code, and not as an image, all I want is to add my drivers for i/o, a/d etc.. to the build, Flick how difficult can student make it!:thumbsdown:, don't want the the rubbish!

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                  • J JMK NI

                    I remember whenever games console memory cards where 1MB, and you were outraged when a single game took up the full 1MB storage space (or close to it!) Now 40GB is meh.

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    Um, when I first started playing computer games, it was 1K, not a whole meg! A meg was HUGE! By 'eck, it were Luxury!

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • K kmoorevs

                      To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                      joop muis
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                      An other option is to unpack the iso to an external (flash) drive, using 7-zip or something like that. Then it will fit on other filesystems too.

                      Joop Muis

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Shoot. You just shifted my paradigm. :doh:

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Well run it up the flagpole, and see if anyone salutes it!

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                        • K kmoorevs

                          To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                          com builder
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                          Thanks for the experience. I only have three words to say: MOVE TO PYTHON! Quickly!!

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                          • K kmoorevs

                            To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                            Member 10114211
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                            You can copy it to your USB-stick. You only have to 'unzip' your ISO-file and then copy the unzipped folder to your USB-stick; you'll see it'll work.

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                              Thanks, but I've already reformatted the flash drive to NTFS and watching the copy nearing completion. I have no dual-layer DVD as I've never needed one before. I suppose there must be a downside to NTFS on a flash drive...probably won't work with '98 or something! :laugh:

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                              Rafael Nicoletti 0
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                              Well, vs2013 will not work on 98 either. No worry about that.

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                kmoorevs wrote:

                                'the file is too large for the destination file system'

                                Which probably means the flash drive is formatted FAT32 - so the maximum file size is 4GB. Reformat it to NTFS and the problem should go away.

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                ... or ExFAT if you want to make cross platform use easier.

                                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  Um, when I first started playing computer games, it was 1K, not a whole meg! A meg was HUGE! By 'eck, it were Luxury!

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  dannomanno
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                                  This is rapidly becoming that classic monty python sketch... "You had kilobytes?! Ooooooh....pure heaven. We used to have to fight over individual bytes to hold our data!" "Whaaaaat?? You had entire bytes?! Pah, your life was EASY...if we had a singular bit to call our own, we was happy." "Oh really!? My whole neighborhood shared a single floppy disk!" "HRMPH....you mean you had a computer?? Well..."

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                                  • K kmoorevs

                                    To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                                    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                    kmoorevs wrote:

                                    ...does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                                    Nah... it's just feature-rich! (For the record: keep in mind that there is no such thing as a "bug" - everything is a feature!)

                                    Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                                    In the worst way that could be possible!

                                    –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                                    • K kmoorevs

                                      To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                      Matt McGuire
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                                      kmoorevs wrote:

                                      does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                                      totally. But then again I read somewhere that most shops think disk space is cheap; I for one do not agree with this mentality. There feels like an ever increasing 'glut' going on. I try to keep the installs small (around 1mb or 2) and have optional add on installers for any extras someone may want.

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                                        To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                        ISpliter
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                                        That is why I and many more like me use Visual Basic 6.0. It is small (portable version ~6M) and very fast. :-D

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                                          You can copy it to your USB-stick. You only have to 'unzip' your ISO-file and then copy the unzipped folder to your USB-stick; you'll see it'll work.

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                                          I got it to go by formatting the stick with NTFS. Thanks though! :)

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