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  • S Single Step Debugger

    Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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    Mark_Wallace
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    Right now, I hate the CP abuse system, because evil-minded scumbags are using it for political reasons. Things like that will lead to the ruination of CP. The failure of bulletin boards/newsgroups/etc. always starts with small abuses like that.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Voice recognition systems. A pox on them.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      ZurdoDev
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      Voice recognition systems.

      They work great when you don't have a mouth full of food. Perhaps that is the problem?

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      • S Single Step Debugger

        Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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        Lost User
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        After 10+ years of doing c++ on linux I would say Windows.

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        • S Single Step Debugger

          Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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          Marc Clifton
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          You should never work with me if you have that opinion of XML. :) But to answer your question: television, the destroyer of both the social fabric of society and the people's will and intellectual ability to do something about, well anything and everything. Marc

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          • S Single Step Debugger

            If I quote CG "Java is like this Japanese soldier, who fought WWII in the jungle twenty years after the war was over". So Java may popup time to time, just to annoy the people, and is still supported from some organizations like Oracle for example, put it pretty much dropped from the technology main stream years ago.

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            Orlin Georgiev
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            But it somehow tops all language popularity rankings? Yeah, those probably have a typo...

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            • F Forogar

              Smartphones. A regular cell phone (preferably the size and weight of a brick to discourage people from carrying them into restaurants, cinemas and other places) was fine for making calls in emergencies or, at least, when the call was essential. Smartphones first encouraged people to be on them all the time - even when ordering at a coffee shop or restaurant - and then encouraged people to either google everything all the time or be endlessly texting nonsense to each other. Texting is great for the hearing impaired - which explains why people sitting next to each other in clubs, etc. text each other. The music is so loud that: 1. They cannot hear one another speaking so need to text things like "hello", "do you want a drink?" and "do you think this music needs to be a bit louder?" 2. They are all going to be hearing impaired very soon anyway so they might as well get used to texting.

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Bajaja
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              Forogar wrote:

              even when ordering at a coffee shop or restaurant

              that is not that bad. But for a damn good sake leave it in the pocket while you are driving a caaaaaaar :wtf:

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                java. It's terrible. MySQL. It's terrible (which is strange considering it is from Oracle) XML is, more or less OK although this does depend on the need. Here we work with CSV, ASCII, xls and FITS files all with their good and bad and worse formats, so here it's not technology itself, but rather how they use it. Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it. openoffice/libreoffice. :doh: open office is probably all right, but libre office? :wtf: iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p. Most technologies are OK depending on how you use them.

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                Fabio Franco
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                I agree with you in everything but Linux. I love it, wish I knew more about it and like to play around with it from time to time. It's a playground for me, doing something different from time to time.

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                • S Single Step Debugger

                  Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                  JVM C++14

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                  • S Single Step Debugger

                    Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                    mwmp
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                    1. Internet Explorer 2. Internet Explorer 3. Internet Explorer 4. Windows Server 5. Windows Phone 6. Apple (iOS, OS X, ...) 7. Visual Basic

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                    • S Single Step Debugger

                      Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                      Steve Naidamast
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                      Except for web-services, I have to agree with the original post. However, I believe he should have added JavaScript to his list. VBScript was a far more sophisticated client-side scripting language than Java will ever be and was very well documented in comparison. JavaScript has also promoted a host of redundant frameworks, which offer little in the way of benefit for using them over standard implementations while adding a lot more bloated code to the front-end...

                      Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                        Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                          java. It's terrible. MySQL. It's terrible (which is strange considering it is from Oracle) XML is, more or less OK although this does depend on the need. Here we work with CSV, ASCII, xls and FITS files all with their good and bad and worse formats, so here it's not technology itself, but rather how they use it. Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it. openoffice/libreoffice. :doh: open office is probably all right, but libre office? :wtf: iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p. Most technologies are OK depending on how you use them.

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                          my thoughts entirely V

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                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            I'm too busy having a life to actually hate a piece of software. Although, if I were to say something off the top of my head I'd imagine most things you can find on CNET are a pile of dung.

                            Jeremy Falcon

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                            _WinBase_
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                            a life? - i'm a programmer, never heard of one of those

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                              Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)

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                              Thornik
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                              +1 to XML and COM And +100 to all MS bullsh!t like Azure, SharePoint, WCF. And +1000 to all stupids writing on PHP - most horrible language ever.

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                              • D den2k88

                                .NET It is sluggish, heavy and the framework is poorly documented. The learning curve is way steeper than the COM one, considering that many framework classes are encapsulated COM this shouldn't surprise anyone.

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                                Thornik
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                                Poorly documented? 3GB of help files are POOR? Dude, you're just troll.

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                                • S Slacker007

                                  Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                  but Java is dead for good

                                  I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.

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                                  Thornik
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                                  Java is not dead like "Rolling Stones are forever" - yes, while exist oldfags to scream about it. Real life moves forward and Java just sit and watches for C# on the horizon!

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                                    I agree with you in everything but Linux. I love it, wish I knew more about it and like to play around with it from time to time. It's a playground for me, doing something different from time to time.

                                    To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                                    Thornik
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                                    Linux is nice, while you do NOTHING IMPORTANT - like keeping home server with 3 html pages. Once you need to do the job, Linux converts to the time machine and EATS YOUR TIME! Not even twice I tried to make something and caught myself making everything, but the work: update libraries, install missing packages, playing with settings, forcing some device to work, etc. - it's unix way - to waste time for nothing.

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      The ringing isn't the problem, but when some-one asks me to transfer the call I'm starting to sweat...

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      you can transfer a call ? :omg: Yup I hate phones too and practice myself in getting to know absolutely nothing about them. I went as far as press 0 for an outside line... (or 9, sometimes it´s 9, right?)

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                                        a life? - i'm a programmer, never heard of one of those

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                                        yeah, contradiction in terms ;P

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                                          Poorly documented? 3GB of help files are POOR? Dude, you're just troll.

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                                          They may be even 30 GB of help files, the way it is documented is poor. Yes, there are all the signatures of the functions and the members of the classes, wow, much useful - except that there is no info on what each class does, except for some of them. Should I use System.Windows.Controls.Image or System.Drawing.Image or System.Windows.Imaging.BitmapImage? How can I convert between one of the above to another of them? Why can't I show a BitmapImage in a control and I hav to copy-wrap-mangle with them? Not documented. It says: here the members, here the methods signatures, go flock yourself. And I do: I use native and Win32 APIs, which are faster, well documented and thoroughly known.

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