which technologies you really hate?
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Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)
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Except for web-services, I have to agree with the original post. However, I believe he should have added JavaScript to his list. VBScript was a far more sophisticated client-side scripting language than Java will ever be and was very well documented in comparison. JavaScript has also promoted a host of redundant frameworks, which offer little in the way of benefit for using them over standard implementations while adding a lot more bloated code to the front-end...
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Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)
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java. It's terrible. MySQL. It's terrible (which is strange considering it is from Oracle) XML is, more or less OK although this does depend on the need. Here we work with CSV, ASCII, xls and FITS files all with their good and bad and worse formats, so here it's not technology itself, but rather how they use it. Linux. Some swear by it, I hate it. openoffice/libreoffice. :doh: open office is probably all right, but libre office? :wtf: iTunes. They should execute the humans involved in this piece of cr*p. Most technologies are OK depending on how you use them.
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I'm too busy having a life to actually hate a piece of software. Although, if I were to say something off the top of my head I'd imagine most things you can find on CNET are a pile of dung.
Jeremy Falcon
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Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)
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.NET It is sluggish, heavy and the framework is poorly documented. The learning curve is way steeper than the COM one, considering that many framework classes are encapsulated COM this shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
but Java is dead for good
I don't know what planet you are coding on, but I assure you, Java is not dead.
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I agree with you in everything but Linux. I love it, wish I knew more about it and like to play around with it from time to time. It's a playground for me, doing something different from time to time.
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Linux is nice, while you do NOTHING IMPORTANT - like keeping home server with 3 html pages. Once you need to do the job, Linux converts to the time machine and EATS YOUR TIME! Not even twice I tried to make something and caught myself making everything, but the work: update libraries, install missing packages, playing with settings, forcing some device to work, etc. - it's unix way - to waste time for nothing.
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The ringing isn't the problem, but when some-one asks me to transfer the call I'm starting to sweat...
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They may be even 30 GB of help files, the way it is documented is poor. Yes, there are all the signatures of the functions and the members of the classes, wow, much useful - except that there is no info on what each class does, except for some of them. Should I use System.Windows.Controls.Image or System.Drawing.Image or System.Windows.Imaging.BitmapImage? How can I convert between one of the above to another of them? Why can't I show a BitmapImage in a control and I hav to copy-wrap-mangle with them? Not documented. It says: here the members, here the methods signatures, go flock yourself. And I do: I use native and Win32 APIs, which are faster, well documented and thoroughly known.
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Java is not dead like "Rolling Stones are forever" - yes, while exist oldfags to scream about it. Real life moves forward and Java just sit and watches for C# on the horizon!
Thornik wrote:
oldfags
4chan-er perhaps?
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Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)
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you can transfer a call ? :omg: Yup I hate phones too and practice myself in getting to know absolutely nothing about them. I went as far as press 0 for an outside line... (or 9, sometimes it´s 9, right?)
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(MQOTD rules and previous solutions)I have a check list to do so! 1. Calm down 2. Hit the 'Transfer call' button 3. Calm down 4. Enter number 5. Calm down 6. Put down the phone 7. Calm down
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You should never work with me if you have that opinion of XML. :) But to answer your question: television, the destroyer of both the social fabric of society and the people's will and intellectual ability to do something about, well anything and everything. Marc
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Here is my list: 1. XML (Both human and computer have difficulties reading this crap. It's slow as dismembered turtle. Also the tools and accompanying technologies related to XML are crap too. Only Java use to have some dissent XML libraries, but Java is dead for good, so no much use of these.) 2. Web Services (Spawn of the devil. Working with this gives you a depression. .Net tools are not so bad. SOAP is a good protocol. But the entre thing is hit and miss situation. Definitely the result not worth the effort, except for some specific cases.) 3. COM (I have more than a decade long, love-hate relationship with COM. Very useful in some cases, but PITA most of the time. Really steep learning curve.) 4. MFC (Haven't evolved a bit(pun not intended) for the last 15 years.)
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They may be even 30 GB of help files, the way it is documented is poor. Yes, there are all the signatures of the functions and the members of the classes, wow, much useful - except that there is no info on what each class does, except for some of them. Should I use System.Windows.Controls.Image or System.Drawing.Image or System.Windows.Imaging.BitmapImage? How can I convert between one of the above to another of them? Why can't I show a BitmapImage in a control and I hav to copy-wrap-mangle with them? Not documented. It says: here the members, here the methods signatures, go flock yourself. And I do: I use native and Win32 APIs, which are faster, well documented and thoroughly known.
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I agree that MSDN is not the best _teaching_ resource, but at least it has everything what .NET has! Above that there is a lot of sites (like StackOverflow) where you can get answer on almost everything - including your Bitmaps. So it's just lie ".NET is poorly documented" - it has A LOT of docs, just google what you need. For 10 years on .NET I had may be 2-3 questions which had no answer, all other problems was resolved quickly. Today .NET is the best platform I know - far better than Java, Swift or whatever. And it's related tools too - VS stay one step above all those Eclipse/ItelliJ/SharpDevelop/NetBeans craftworks.
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Thornik wrote:
oldfags
4chan-er perhaps?
Nope, just ironic word Russians borrow to describe old guy, who lives in a previous century and doesn't want to live in an actual time, ignoring modern culture, things, etc. They think "everything great" was made only by his generation. Java is the same story - people who study it 15 years ago just stopped in progress - they still think programming is writing 100-LOCs to save CSV data. Hardly they will make something meaningful nowadays!
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yeah, contradiction in terms ;P
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(MQOTD rules and previous solutions)Touché!
Jeremy Falcon
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I agree that MSDN is not the best _teaching_ resource, but at least it has everything what .NET has! Above that there is a lot of sites (like StackOverflow) where you can get answer on almost everything - including your Bitmaps. So it's just lie ".NET is poorly documented" - it has A LOT of docs, just google what you need. For 10 years on .NET I had may be 2-3 questions which had no answer, all other problems was resolved quickly. Today .NET is the best platform I know - far better than Java, Swift or whatever. And it's related tools too - VS stay one step above all those Eclipse/ItelliJ/SharpDevelop/NetBeans craftworks.
Thornik wrote:
just google what you need.
I don't have access to any site except MSDN. It took me 3 years to have access to CodeProject and StackOverflow. So I couldn't ask anything - but MSDN should provide ALL the documentation. If you describe me a tool in any aspect but you don't tell me what I'm supposed to do with it then it is useless, I will never use that tool anyway.
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