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  • K KarstenK

    since the last update installation it doesnt boot smooth anymore, but nerving with it shiny new blue screen with the known errors as IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL, some ARC_SYSTEM ??? and other stuff. I got to reset the BIOS and boot 3 times and the PC freezes. Such shit I havent experienced since Vista Previews. :mad::mad::mad: Addition: I got the next BSOD with fvevol.sys PS: I run the PC three month with Windows 8 error free, and two month with Windows 10 (no new hardware)

    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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    Philippe Mori
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    Make sure that the computer is not defective... What is ARC_SYSTEM? In my opinion most crash are either due to malfunctionning hardware or poorly written drivers.

    Philippe Mori

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    • L Lost User

      Exactly, this is the Point!:thumbsup: Upgrade or clean install. If I compare this to my experience with my own apps, an upgrade is not always that easy... and with my apps it is only an app. Upgrading an OS: I do not have an idea, why people expect this should work smooth ;)

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      Sascha Lefevre
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      0x01AA wrote:

      Upgrading an OS: I do not have an idea, why people expect this should work smooth

      Because Microsoft offering it not only as an option but as the default procedure should imply that it works, right? Of course we know better, but that's why people expect it, rightfully.

      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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        Exactly, this is the Point!:thumbsup: Upgrade or clean install. If I compare this to my experience with my own apps, an upgrade is not always that easy... and with my apps it is only an app. Upgrading an OS: I do not have an idea, why people expect this should work smooth ;)

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        Lost User
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        It is important to do the upgrade first, then follow up with a clean install. When you upgrade your machine is registered with Microsoft as eligible for Win 10, and you won't need an expensive activation code later - during the clean install. Just skip the parts where a clean install asks for the activation code.

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

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          You will be assimilated.

          I will switch to Linux! :D And then come back to Windows 10 tail between my legs... :sigh:

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          Lost User
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          And then come back to Windows 10 tail between my legs

          The Microsoft Borg may not let you into the Win 10 Cube for free at a later date. Win 10 is free now - but for how long? :)

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          • S Sascha Lefevre

            0x01AA wrote:

            Upgrading an OS: I do not have an idea, why people expect this should work smooth

            Because Microsoft offering it not only as an option but as the default procedure should imply that it works, right? Of course we know better, but that's why people expect it, rightfully.

            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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            Lost User
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            I agree with your arguments. But in this case I think it is an experienced user. I will also do this (need to do it because of company guidlines) upgrade to W10 in near future, one from W7 and one from W8.1, but I do not expect it goes smooth. More I expect that I need to go from scratch :(

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            • L Lost User

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              And then come back to Windows 10 tail between my legs

              The Microsoft Borg may not let you into the Win 10 Cube for free at a later date. Win 10 is free now - but for how long? :)

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              Sander Rossel
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              I'm assuming that if I don't have to upgrade now I certainly won't have to once they start charging. Perhaps they'll even remove the optional update :D

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • K Kenneth Haugland

                What are you guys installing/running that makes Windows 10 unusable? I don't really have many problems with it.

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                Marc Clifton
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                Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                I don't really have many problems with it.

                You shouldn't have *any* problems with it. :laugh: Marc

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                • L Lost User

                  It is important to do the upgrade first, then follow up with a clean install. When you upgrade your machine is registered with Microsoft as eligible for Win 10, and you won't need an expensive activation code later - during the clean install. Just skip the parts where a clean install asks for the activation code.

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  Lost User
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                  Thank you for this great advice. :cool:

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                  • K KarstenK

                    since the last update installation it doesnt boot smooth anymore, but nerving with it shiny new blue screen with the known errors as IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL, some ARC_SYSTEM ??? and other stuff. I got to reset the BIOS and boot 3 times and the PC freezes. Such shit I havent experienced since Vista Previews. :mad::mad::mad: Addition: I got the next BSOD with fvevol.sys PS: I run the PC three month with Windows 8 error free, and two month with Windows 10 (no new hardware)

                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                    Lost User
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                    Have a look to this Statement from Cornelius Henning - Professional Profile - CodeProject[^] in The Lounge - CodeProject[^] it makes a lot of sense for me.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Thank you for this great advice. :cool:

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                      Lost User
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                      You're very welcome! :)

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                      • K KarstenK

                        since the last update installation it doesnt boot smooth anymore, but nerving with it shiny new blue screen with the known errors as IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL, some ARC_SYSTEM ??? and other stuff. I got to reset the BIOS and boot 3 times and the PC freezes. Such shit I havent experienced since Vista Previews. :mad::mad::mad: Addition: I got the next BSOD with fvevol.sys PS: I run the PC three month with Windows 8 error free, and two month with Windows 10 (no new hardware)

                        Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                        Is this fun or what?

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Try removing non-essential Windows 10 and see if the situation improves.

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          Slacker007
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                          :laugh:

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            I'm not installing it because I read all this stuff in the lounge :laugh:

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            glennPattonWork3
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                            I installed because this box had 8 on it, it's an improvment!

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                            • G glennPattonWork3

                              I installed because this box had 8 on it, it's an improvment!

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              In that case I guess it's a valid choice :D

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              • R Ron Anders

                                Is this fun or what?

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                                Lost User
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                                Quote:

                                Is this fun or what?

                                Yeah! And for more fun, you can always push needles into your eyes. :-D

                                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                • L Lost User

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                                  And then come back to Windows 10 tail between my legs

                                  The Microsoft Borg may not let you into the Win 10 Cube for free at a later date. Win 10 is free now - but for how long? :)

                                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                  ledtech3
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                                  Windows 10 will be free until they get enough people to work the (major)bugs out, Then move on to Windows 11.

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                                  • M Mladen Jankovic

                                    Try removing non-essential drivers and see if the situation improves.

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                                    KarstenK
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                                    The newest component of the system is Windows 10. :confused: The PC run stable for month with W8 and W10!!!

                                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      When you switched to Win 10: Did you just do the upgrade or did you follow it up with a clean install? I saw this on my grandson's laptop after the upgrade, but after a clean install it was good.

                                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                      KarstenK
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                                      It run stable for two months. I read that the latest update for Windows 10 is crushing machines. I started with Windows 3.0 - I have seen a lot of BSODs, but really rarely after a Windows Update. :((

                                      Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                      • K KarstenK

                                        The newest component of the system is Windows 10. :confused: The PC run stable for month with W8 and W10!!!

                                        Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                        Mladen Jankovic
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                                        You know drivers also get updated from time to time. Have you checked your drivers? Or are you here just to complain?

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                          I don't really have many problems with it.

                                          You shouldn't have *any* problems with it. :laugh: Marc

                                          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                                          Kenneth Haugland
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                                          So I'm guessing you didn't install it :laugh:

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