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  • S Sascha Lefevre

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    Upgrading an OS: I do not have an idea, why people expect this should work smooth

    Because Microsoft offering it not only as an option but as the default procedure should imply that it works, right? Of course we know better, but that's why people expect it, rightfully.

    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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    Lost User
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    I agree with your arguments. But in this case I think it is an experienced user. I will also do this (need to do it because of company guidlines) upgrade to W10 in near future, one from W7 and one from W8.1, but I do not expect it goes smooth. More I expect that I need to go from scratch :(

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      And then come back to Windows 10 tail between my legs

      The Microsoft Borg may not let you into the Win 10 Cube for free at a later date. Win 10 is free now - but for how long? :)

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      Sander Rossel
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      I'm assuming that if I don't have to upgrade now I certainly won't have to once they start charging. Perhaps they'll even remove the optional update :D

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      • K Kenneth Haugland

        What are you guys installing/running that makes Windows 10 unusable? I don't really have many problems with it.

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        Marc Clifton
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        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

        I don't really have many problems with it.

        You shouldn't have *any* problems with it. :laugh: Marc

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          It is important to do the upgrade first, then follow up with a clean install. When you upgrade your machine is registered with Microsoft as eligible for Win 10, and you won't need an expensive activation code later - during the clean install. Just skip the parts where a clean install asks for the activation code.

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          Lost User
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          Thank you for this great advice. :cool:

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          • K KarstenK

            since the last update installation it doesnt boot smooth anymore, but nerving with it shiny new blue screen with the known errors as IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL, some ARC_SYSTEM ??? and other stuff. I got to reset the BIOS and boot 3 times and the PC freezes. Such shit I havent experienced since Vista Previews. :mad::mad::mad: Addition: I got the next BSOD with fvevol.sys PS: I run the PC three month with Windows 8 error free, and two month with Windows 10 (no new hardware)

            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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            Lost User
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            Have a look to this Statement from Cornelius Henning - Professional Profile - CodeProject[^] in The Lounge - CodeProject[^] it makes a lot of sense for me.

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            • L Lost User

              Thank you for this great advice. :cool:

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              Lost User
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              You're very welcome! :)

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              • K KarstenK

                since the last update installation it doesnt boot smooth anymore, but nerving with it shiny new blue screen with the known errors as IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL, some ARC_SYSTEM ??? and other stuff. I got to reset the BIOS and boot 3 times and the PC freezes. Such shit I havent experienced since Vista Previews. :mad::mad::mad: Addition: I got the next BSOD with fvevol.sys PS: I run the PC three month with Windows 8 error free, and two month with Windows 10 (no new hardware)

                Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                Ron Anders
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                Is this fun or what?

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  Try removing non-essential Windows 10 and see if the situation improves.

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  Slacker007
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                  :laugh:

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I'm not installing it because I read all this stuff in the lounge :laugh:

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    glennPattonWork3
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                    I installed because this box had 8 on it, it's an improvment!

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                    • G glennPattonWork3

                      I installed because this box had 8 on it, it's an improvment!

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      In that case I guess it's a valid choice :D

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      • R Ron Anders

                        Is this fun or what?

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                        Lost User
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                        Quote:

                        Is this fun or what?

                        Yeah! And for more fun, you can always push needles into your eyes. :-D

                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        • L Lost User

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                          And then come back to Windows 10 tail between my legs

                          The Microsoft Borg may not let you into the Win 10 Cube for free at a later date. Win 10 is free now - but for how long? :)

                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                          ledtech3
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                          Windows 10 will be free until they get enough people to work the (major)bugs out, Then move on to Windows 11.

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                          • M Mladen Jankovic

                            Try removing non-essential drivers and see if the situation improves.

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                            KarstenK
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                            The newest component of the system is Windows 10. :confused: The PC run stable for month with W8 and W10!!!

                            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                              When you switched to Win 10: Did you just do the upgrade or did you follow it up with a clean install? I saw this on my grandson's laptop after the upgrade, but after a clean install it was good.

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                              KarstenK
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                              It run stable for two months. I read that the latest update for Windows 10 is crushing machines. I started with Windows 3.0 - I have seen a lot of BSODs, but really rarely after a Windows Update. :((

                              Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                The newest component of the system is Windows 10. :confused: The PC run stable for month with W8 and W10!!!

                                Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                Mladen Jankovic
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                                You know drivers also get updated from time to time. Have you checked your drivers? Or are you here just to complain?

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                  I don't really have many problems with it.

                                  You shouldn't have *any* problems with it. :laugh: Marc

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                                  Kenneth Haugland
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                                  So I'm guessing you didn't install it :laugh:

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                                  • K KarstenK

                                    since the last update installation it doesnt boot smooth anymore, but nerving with it shiny new blue screen with the known errors as IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL, some ARC_SYSTEM ??? and other stuff. I got to reset the BIOS and boot 3 times and the PC freezes. Such shit I havent experienced since Vista Previews. :mad::mad::mad: Addition: I got the next BSOD with fvevol.sys PS: I run the PC three month with Windows 8 error free, and two month with Windows 10 (no new hardware)

                                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                    Patrice T
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                                    It is MS, it is a feature. ;P Why are you W10 ? It is common knowledge that is still beta and will be at least until next year. Look, they are still adding features !

                                    Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                                    • K Kenneth Haugland

                                      So I'm guessing you didn't install it :laugh:

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      So I'm guessing you didn't install it

                                      So far, I've only installed it in a Virtual Box VM, so I can play with this[^] poorly documented (but what a nice website!) app. Marc

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                                      • K KarstenK

                                        since the last update installation it doesnt boot smooth anymore, but nerving with it shiny new blue screen with the known errors as IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL, some ARC_SYSTEM ??? and other stuff. I got to reset the BIOS and boot 3 times and the PC freezes. Such shit I havent experienced since Vista Previews. :mad::mad::mad: Addition: I got the next BSOD with fvevol.sys PS: I run the PC three month with Windows 8 error free, and two month with Windows 10 (no new hardware)

                                        Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                        xiecsuk
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                                        I find I'm getting problems when starting up. Yesterday, I started Win10, installed from a purchased copy, and it just froze after I started Windows Mail, Internet Explorer and Calendar. That was the second time in the last couple of weeks. A hard restart was the only way out of it, again. I am also experiencing a long hang occasionally when it is running. It eventually sorts itself out. Before these recent problems, I've had no trouble at all.

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                                          I find I'm getting problems when starting up. Yesterday, I started Win10, installed from a purchased copy, and it just froze after I started Windows Mail, Internet Explorer and Calendar. That was the second time in the last couple of weeks. A hard restart was the only way out of it, again. I am also experiencing a long hang occasionally when it is running. It eventually sorts itself out. Before these recent problems, I've had no trouble at all.

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                                          User 10884301
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                                          I also had the misfortune of falling for the Microsoft hype over how good the new OS was and took up the opportunity to upgrade from my perfectly competant Win7 to Win10 and that's when it all fell apart. Admittedly had I read some of the forums beforehand I might have set up an image of the harddrive before doing it which would have saved my alot of headache. After just one day of use I realised that the OS isn't fit for purpose and all Microsoft are doing is skipping the bulk of the beta test phase by forcing their customer base to act as guinea pigs for their well concieved but poorly executed system. After Win10 stopped recognising my graphics card (NVidia GTX860M) which is compliant and fully updated with Win10, I chose the option of reverting the OS back to Win7 but that just locked up the system leaving it in limbo for 9-days in a half-way house state unable to complete the removal process and equally unable to recover my original OS. I managed to recover the data off the partitioned drive, but had to format the C-drive and start again from scratch (oh for an image of the harddrive) :mad: Two weeks on I'm now struggling to find the drivers neceesary to get my laptop fully operational again and back to where it was before Christmas, as it seems most drivers only go back so far as Win8.1, yet another useless system. Let's hope this goes the same way as their blighted phone range.

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