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  • L Lost User

    By that standard I qualify as one of our greatest brains.

    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
    This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
    "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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    W Balboos GHB
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    Or, more likely, a biological cul-de-sac.

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    • W W Balboos GHB

      Or, more likely, a biological cul-de-sac.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Lost User
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      Looking at the primates and mutants others have produced, I actually did not have to think too hard.

      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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      • S Super Lloyd

        Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...

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        Lost User
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        Super Lloyd wrote:

        I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?

        That's easy. Give all offenders troll points and encourage trolling them. :-)

        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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        • S Super Lloyd

          Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...

          A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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          Tim Carmichael
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          Super Lloyd wrote:

          Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast

          And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.

          Super Lloyd wrote:

          I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?

          Who watches the watchers that are the worst violators?

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          • S Super Lloyd

            Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...

            A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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            JHizzle
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            I used to moderate a gaming board when I was working nights, you'll never be able to completely prevent toxicity online, you can only remove, warn and then ultimately ban repeat offenders. It's the whole feeling of anonymity that people get online which they think protects them from repercussions (ultimately they're right, there's a limit to what you can do). Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...

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            • T Tim Carmichael

              Super Lloyd wrote:

              Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast

              And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.

              Super Lloyd wrote:

              I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?

              Who watches the watchers that are the worst violators?

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              Sean Ewington
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              I'm watching.

              Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject

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              • S Super Lloyd

                Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...

                A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                Marc Clifton
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                Super Lloyd wrote:

                What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity...

                The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that. Perhaps I demonstrate that point! ;) Marc

                Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                • J Johnny J

                  It should probably be enough just to let people know that all moderators are active members of Hells Angels... :doh:

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  Good plan! :P

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                  • S Super Lloyd

                    Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    First: good luck. Second: Show respect, always, everywhere. Third: GOTO First.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • L Lost User

                      What if we treat this as a huge multi-armed bandit optimization problem. Have the server serve messages (and replies to them, to prevent out-of-context replies) that it thinks could be good for the objective, plus some exploration of course, balancing those goals is what multi-armed bandit is all about. Optimize for .. I don't know exactly. Maybe do some sentiment analysis on the message and replies to it. Hellban people who consistently show bad payout.

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                      Super Lloyd
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                      Yes, yes, I can see how this would work! :omg: :rolleyes:

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                      • T Tim Carmichael

                        Super Lloyd wrote:

                        Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast

                        And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.

                        Super Lloyd wrote:

                        I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?

                        Who watches the watchers that are the worst violators?

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                        Super Lloyd
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                        Tim Carmichael wrote:

                        And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.

                        Oh.. I missed those parts! :laugh: :-D

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                        • J JHizzle

                          I used to moderate a gaming board when I was working nights, you'll never be able to completely prevent toxicity online, you can only remove, warn and then ultimately ban repeat offenders. It's the whole feeling of anonymity that people get online which they think protects them from repercussions (ultimately they're right, there's a limit to what you can do). Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...

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                          Super Lloyd
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                          Thanks for your insight!

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            First: good luck. Second: Show respect, always, everywhere. Third: GOTO First.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Super Lloyd
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                            Thanks! :) It's only a remote possibility at that stage... Need to work harder in my take over the world app first! :laugh:

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Super Lloyd wrote:

                              What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity...

                              The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that. Perhaps I demonstrate that point! ;) Marc

                              Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                              Super Lloyd
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                              Damn, I missed out on the toxic Clifton bits! :laugh:

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Super Lloyd wrote:

                                What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity...

                                The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that. Perhaps I demonstrate that point! ;) Marc

                                Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                                Johnny J
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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that.

                                Not really - put face to face with the persons they're talking about, not many people would behave the same as they do on the net. It's the anonymity that brings out the wurst in people. You can see it here on CP as well: The members who know each other from daily chit-chat etc treat each other with a reasonable amount of respect (even those who don't like each other all that much), but you can see the same people chew up some innocent newbie with no holds barred. So because I know you and your reputation, I will definitely refrain from calling you a stupid asshat for the comment you just posted... ;)

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                                  I used to moderate a gaming board when I was working nights, you'll never be able to completely prevent toxicity online, you can only remove, warn and then ultimately ban repeat offenders. It's the whole feeling of anonymity that people get online which they think protects them from repercussions (ultimately they're right, there's a limit to what you can do). Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...

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                                  Johnny J
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                                  JHizzle wrote:

                                  Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...

                                  Not here, and I've never understood why... :sigh:

                                  Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                                  The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                                  Winston Churchill, 1944
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                                  I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                                  Me, all the time

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                                    JHizzle wrote:

                                    Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...

                                    Not here, and I've never understood why... :sigh:

                                    Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                                    Anonymous
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                                    The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                                    Winston Churchill, 1944
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                                    I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                                    Me, all the time

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                                    Tom Deketelaere
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                                    Because that doesn't work for certain parts of the world. I for instance don't have a fixed IP (at home). Yes it stays the same for a long time but a simple router reboot (can) change my ip so...

                                    Tom

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                                      Because that doesn't work for certain parts of the world. I for instance don't have a fixed IP (at home). Yes it stays the same for a long time but a simple router reboot (can) change my ip so...

                                      Tom

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                                      Johnny J
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                                      True, but it's not a reason not to implement it anyway. It could - if nothing else - kepp SOME of the offenders out... :doh:

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                                      Me, all the time

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                                      • S Super Lloyd

                                        Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...

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                                        Rage
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                                        Super Lloyd wrote:

                                        Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem

                                        Really ? Back then, @toxcct was a rather good guy.

                                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                        • S Super Lloyd

                                          Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...

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                                          jeron1
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                                          Sadly, I'd suggest starting work on a perpetual motion machine, you have a better chance of it working.

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