Online community idea
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Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
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Super Lloyd wrote:
Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast
And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.
Super Lloyd wrote:
I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?
Who watches the watchers that are the worst violators?
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Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
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I used to moderate a gaming board when I was working nights, you'll never be able to completely prevent toxicity online, you can only remove, warn and then ultimately ban repeat offenders. It's the whole feeling of anonymity that people get online which they think protects them from repercussions (ultimately they're right, there's a limit to what you can do). Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...
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Super Lloyd wrote:
Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast
And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.
Super Lloyd wrote:
I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?
Who watches the watchers that are the worst violators?
I'm watching.
Thanks, Sean Ewington CodeProject
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Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
Super Lloyd wrote:
What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity...
The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that. Perhaps I demonstrate that point! ;) Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
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It should probably be enough just to let people know that all moderators are active members of Hells Angels... :doh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeGood plan! :P
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
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Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
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First: good luck. Second: Show respect, always, everywhere. Third: GOTO First.
cheers Chris Maunder
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What if we treat this as a huge multi-armed bandit optimization problem. Have the server serve messages (and replies to them, to prevent out-of-context replies) that it thinks could be good for the objective, plus some exploration of course, balancing those goals is what multi-armed bandit is all about. Optimize for .. I don't know exactly. Maybe do some sentiment analysis on the message and replies to it. Hellban people who consistently show bad payout.
Yes, yes, I can see how this would work! :omg: :rolleyes:
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Super Lloyd wrote:
Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast
And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.
Super Lloyd wrote:
I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?
Who watches the watchers that are the worst violators?
Tim Carmichael wrote:
And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.
Oh.. I missed those parts! :laugh: :-D
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I used to moderate a gaming board when I was working nights, you'll never be able to completely prevent toxicity online, you can only remove, warn and then ultimately ban repeat offenders. It's the whole feeling of anonymity that people get online which they think protects them from repercussions (ultimately they're right, there's a limit to what you can do). Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...
Thanks for your insight!
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First: good luck. Second: Show respect, always, everywhere. Third: GOTO First.
cheers Chris Maunder
Thanks! :) It's only a remote possibility at that stage... Need to work harder in my take over the world app first! :laugh:
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Super Lloyd wrote:
What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity...
The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that. Perhaps I demonstrate that point! ;) Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Damn, I missed out on the toxic Clifton bits! :laugh:
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Super Lloyd wrote:
What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity...
The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that. Perhaps I demonstrate that point! ;) Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Marc Clifton wrote:
The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that.
Not really - put face to face with the persons they're talking about, not many people would behave the same as they do on the net. It's the anonymity that brings out the wurst in people. You can see it here on CP as well: The members who know each other from daily chit-chat etc treat each other with a reasonable amount of respect (even those who don't like each other all that much), but you can see the same people chew up some innocent newbie with no holds barred. So because I know you and your reputation, I will definitely refrain from calling you a stupid asshat for the comment you just posted... ;)
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time -
I used to moderate a gaming board when I was working nights, you'll never be able to completely prevent toxicity online, you can only remove, warn and then ultimately ban repeat offenders. It's the whole feeling of anonymity that people get online which they think protects them from repercussions (ultimately they're right, there's a limit to what you can do). Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...
JHizzle wrote:
Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...
Not here, and I've never understood why... :sigh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time -
JHizzle wrote:
Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...
Not here, and I've never understood why... :sigh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeBecause that doesn't work for certain parts of the world. I for instance don't have a fixed IP (at home). Yes it stays the same for a long time but a simple router reboot (can) change my ip so...
Tom
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Because that doesn't work for certain parts of the world. I for instance don't have a fixed IP (at home). Yes it stays the same for a long time but a simple router reboot (can) change my ip so...
Tom
True, but it's not a reason not to implement it anyway. It could - if nothing else - kepp SOME of the offenders out... :doh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time -
Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
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Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
Sadly, I'd suggest starting work on a perpetual motion machine, you have a better chance of it working.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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True, but it's not a reason not to implement it anyway. It could - if nothing else - kepp SOME of the offenders out... :doh:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeAnd every student in the campus of a single a-hole, every coworker of a single a-hole, every user of the same library of a single a-hole... While that one can simply reboot the router and keep on trolling.
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Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
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Require their credit card numbers when they join and fine them for every toxic post. You can bill them as "a$$ho1e fee" on their credit card statements.
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Apparently toxicity on the internet is a very real problem. When that I experienced first hand in, say, Blizzard's gaming forum. Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast. What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity... Any idea welcome! I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked? I think we can safely say StackOverflow is a total failure here... But I am interested in other example as well...
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Have opinions as strong as you think they need to be, but don't demand that everyone agree with you. Oh, and having a way higher than average percentage of well educated, intelligent professionals might help, too.
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