does this count as one programming language?
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while reading the EU software development salary survey, oreilly 2016 european software development salart survey [^] i wondered if HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language or not. Yes, technically they are 3, but how often does anyone use them completely on their own? HTML on its own, yes. JavaScript, maybe - node doing some fancy server side stuff. CSS, uhm, does this do anything without HTML? If write some JQuery, you could end up writing all your HTML as strings and push to screen. point being, from the survey average used number of respondents languages was 3.6. Well sure, if split them as 3 languages. but how effective are you? Not as effective as someone that knows Bash, Java and Swift (i was gonna put c# and java, but wanted 3 somewhat different languages) So maybe for future surveys, those three (HTML/JS/CSS) should be combined as 1 or 1.5 languages?
As our Israeli correspondent pointed out neither HTML or CSS should be classed as programing languages. At the very least I would suggest a language requires logic and iteration; not to mention data manipulation and I/O.
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From that I assume that one of HTML and CSS is. :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Hang on, just because it is a greater tar pit then the famed esoteric joys of BrianFock, doesn't mean it isn't qualified as a fully fledged skript [sic]
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As our Israeli correspondent pointed out neither HTML or CSS should be classed as programing languages. At the very least I would suggest a language requires logic and iteration; not to mention data manipulation and I/O.
veni bibi saltavi
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
a language requires logic
Which again invalidates JS in nearly every example I've ever seen... :sigh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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As our Israeli correspondent pointed out neither HTML or CSS should be classed as programing languages. At the very least I would suggest a language requires logic and iteration; not to mention data manipulation and I/O.
veni bibi saltavi
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maze3 wrote:
HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language
Two of the three is not a programming language at all!
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
You could consider HTML/CSS to be declarative languages. As for Javascript, I wouldn't call that a language. Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
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while reading the EU software development salary survey, oreilly 2016 european software development salart survey [^] i wondered if HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language or not. Yes, technically they are 3, but how often does anyone use them completely on their own? HTML on its own, yes. JavaScript, maybe - node doing some fancy server side stuff. CSS, uhm, does this do anything without HTML? If write some JQuery, you could end up writing all your HTML as strings and push to screen. point being, from the survey average used number of respondents languages was 3.6. Well sure, if split them as 3 languages. but how effective are you? Not as effective as someone that knows Bash, Java and Swift (i was gonna put c# and java, but wanted 3 somewhat different languages) So maybe for future surveys, those three (HTML/JS/CSS) should be combined as 1 or 1.5 languages?
Most of these surveys are rife with such stupid questions. That's akin to asking a carpenter or an auto mechanic, "How many tools do you use to do your job?" My response: "What blasted difference does it make what the tradesman uses, as long as the end result is a properly constructed house, or well tuned vehicle?" :rolleyes:
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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From that I assume that one of HTML and CSS is. :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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while reading the EU software development salary survey, oreilly 2016 european software development salart survey [^] i wondered if HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language or not. Yes, technically they are 3, but how often does anyone use them completely on their own? HTML on its own, yes. JavaScript, maybe - node doing some fancy server side stuff. CSS, uhm, does this do anything without HTML? If write some JQuery, you could end up writing all your HTML as strings and push to screen. point being, from the survey average used number of respondents languages was 3.6. Well sure, if split them as 3 languages. but how effective are you? Not as effective as someone that knows Bash, Java and Swift (i was gonna put c# and java, but wanted 3 somewhat different languages) So maybe for future surveys, those three (HTML/JS/CSS) should be combined as 1 or 1.5 languages?
maze3 wrote:
i wondered if HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language or not.
JS, no. It can be used outside the browser context. But HTML/CSS should definitely be considered together.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Now that is a big chunk of BS from a professor...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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You could consider HTML/CSS to be declarative languages. As for Javascript, I wouldn't call that a language. Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
I didn't say those two are not languages (as in information exchange) but not PROGRAMMING languages (as in information processing) As for the quality of JS - I'm still before my evening meal...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Most of these surveys are rife with such stupid questions. That's akin to asking a carpenter or an auto mechanic, "How many tools do you use to do your job?" My response: "What blasted difference does it make what the tradesman uses, as long as the end result is a properly constructed house, or well tuned vehicle?" :rolleyes:
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
True, but I would hope anything that could require maintenance uses a tool that is readily accessible versus something that costs thousands of dollars, takes hours to figure out and is used only once.
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You could consider HTML/CSS to be declarative languages. As for Javascript, I wouldn't call that a language. Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Its a language, it was just a bad choice for web. Now we are stuck with a language that should have died decades ago.
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So, does this mean .csv is a programming language?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
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So, does this mean .csv is a programming language?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
No, it's a data format.
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No, it's a data format.
Exactly my point after watching that video. Should have added a :-\ I suppose.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
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maze3 wrote:
i wondered if HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language or not.
JS, no. It can be used outside the browser context. But HTML/CSS should definitely be considered together.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
