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  • L Lost User

    You know you could still use the machine while it is downloading the updates. Just a thought! Joel VssConnect - Remote SourceSafe(r) Access http://www.voxcode.com[^]

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    Lost User
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    Yes, I know... But, as I said, I work mostly in another machine and this one is just for testing and net access. I just kept the IE window in a small corner of the screen and cursed every time I clicked a link in an e-mail and IE warned me that I was going away form the update and he was going to cancel the download if I insisted in going to other page. (It's been a day of select-link, copy-link, open another IE, paste-link :( )

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      Get your IT people to install a SUS server, it will cache the updates localy for you, much faster. Stephen

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      Lost User
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      Not good for me, unfortunatly :(( I'm working from home and the company that I work with doesn't like to give much access to the local network from the outside... Oh, well... It's the first time this happens to me... Let's hope that it's the MS servers that are starting to celebrate easter... :rolleyes:

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      • R Rohit Sinha

        I get 6-7kbps if I am lucky. Normally I get somewhere from 2-5kbps, on bad days it's even less than that. So my 56kbps modem is actually 5-6kbps.
        Regards,

        Rohit Sinha

        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
        - Mother Teresa

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        Domenic Denicola
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        Rohit  Sinha wrote: So my 56kbps modem is actually 5-6kbps. You may want to differentiate between bits per second and bytes per second.


        -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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          Get your IT people to install a SUS server, it will cache the updates localy for you, much faster. Stephen

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          John M Drescher
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          What is a SUS server? John

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          • D Domenic Denicola

            Rohit  Sinha wrote: So my 56kbps modem is actually 5-6kbps. You may want to differentiate between bits per second and bytes per second.


            -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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            Rohit Sinha
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            Oops. Yes of course I meant KBps instead of kbps.
            Regards,

            Rohit Sinha

            Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
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            • R Rohit Sinha

              Oops. Yes of course I meant KBps instead of kbps.
              Regards,

              Rohit Sinha

              Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
              - Mother Teresa

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              Domenic Denicola
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              Ya, but what I meant was that your modem says 56 Kbps, but your download speed is measured in KBps (or, more familiar I would imagine, KB/s). So really a modem of 56 Kbps, which is actually 53 for some random reason, gives 53 / 8 = 6.625 KB/s.


              -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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              • L Lost User

                Please note that I was getting that speed (thank god that it has finished the download now, even though one of the updates failed to download :mad: ) only from the Windows Update site. Anywhere else I choosed to go, I've got the normal speed (I have 512 kbit/s on cable). Thank god that I'm not on dialup any more... My phone company would like very much that I stayed about 4 1/2 hours online (just to get those damned updates) :-D

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                Rickard Andersson20
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                Mad_Matrix wrote: I have 512 kbit/s on cable Wow that's much better than 30kbit/s! :) Soon I can say bye bye to my ISDN and say welcome to ADSL 0,5Mbit/s!!!!!!!! No minute rate or slow ~7kb/s anymore! Just ~$32/month and perhaps 60kb/s!!!! Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                • D Domenic Denicola

                  Ya, but what I meant was that your modem says 56 Kbps, but your download speed is measured in KBps (or, more familiar I would imagine, KB/s). So really a modem of 56 Kbps, which is actually 53 for some random reason, gives 53 / 8 = 6.625 KB/s.


                  -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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                  Rohit Sinha
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                  OK, but I have seen it go as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes, but this is a bit rare. But you are right about modem speed being in kbps and the download speed in KBps.
                  Regards,

                  Rohit Sinha

                  Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                  - Mother Teresa

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                  • D Domenic Denicola

                    Ya, but what I meant was that your modem says 56 Kbps, but your download speed is measured in KBps (or, more familiar I would imagine, KB/s). So really a modem of 56 Kbps, which is actually 53 for some random reason, gives 53 / 8 = 6.625 KB/s.


                    -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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                    Rickard Andersson20
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                    Domenic [Geekn] wrote: 56 Kbps Isn't it 56Kbits and not 56Kbps? :) Not that I want to be Mr. Perfect or so... but... :) Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                    • R Rohit Sinha

                      OK, but I have seen it go as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes, but this is a bit rare. But you are right about modem speed being in kbps and the download speed in KBps.
                      Regards,

                      Rohit Sinha

                      Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                      - Mother Teresa

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                      Steve McLenithan
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                      Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

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                      Is Bert Evil?

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                        Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

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                        Rickard Andersson20
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                        Steve McLenithan wrote: While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it Coool! I never knew that! ;) Now I know why I download in 30Kb/s every 2-3 seconds with my ISDN! Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                        • S Steve McLenithan

                          Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

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                          Rohit Sinha
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                          Oooh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. :)
                          Regards,

                          Rohit Sinha

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                            Mad_Matrix wrote: I have 512 kbit/s on cable Wow that's much better than 30kbit/s! :) Soon I can say bye bye to my ISDN and say welcome to ADSL 0,5Mbit/s!!!!!!!! No minute rate or slow ~7kb/s anymore! Just ~$32/month and perhaps 60kb/s!!!! Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                            Rickard Andersson8 wrote: Soon I can say bye bye to my ISDN and say welcome to ADSL 0,5Mbit/s!!!!!!!! You can't imagine how your net attitude will change ;) When I was on dialup (56 Kbits/s), I always checked the size of the downloads and was always looking to the clock to check how much time I was online. A download of 3Mb would made me think twice if I really need that file. Since I've got cable, with no more timed access and with 8 Gb/month of downloads, I just don't care anymore if the file is big or small :) I just download it and keep on going... Just to give you an example: Two years ago, I decided to try Linux and asked a friend of mine to get me the Debian 2.0 CDs (3 cds). Some months ago, Debian released version 3.0 and I didn't think twice on downloading the full set of cds (7 cds with Linux and applications). I just kicked getright and let it work without worries :cool:

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                            • J John M Drescher

                              What is a SUS server? John

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                              stephen woolhead
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                              SUS = Software Update Services http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/windowsupdate/sus/default.asp Will not handle things like IE or MediaPlayer, but will deal with most other patches for you, and is a bargin at the price (free). Windows OS only, for things like Exchange and SQL Server look at UpdateExpert or Hfnetchk Stephen

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                                SUS = Software Update Services http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/windowsupdate/sus/default.asp Will not handle things like IE or MediaPlayer, but will deal with most other patches for you, and is a bargin at the price (free). Windows OS only, for things like Exchange and SQL Server look at UpdateExpert or Hfnetchk Stephen

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                                John M Drescher
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                                Thank You. This could help a lot. John

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                                  Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

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                                  Is Bert Evil?

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                                  Steve McLenithan wrote: Not possible. Not always. IE and other browsers and a lot of servers have the ability to compress the data before they transmit it. The browser handles this transparently, and it reports the speed based on the UNcompressed data. I have often got 14KB/s from a 56k connection continually across a 2-3MB file. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                  Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                    Yes, I know... But, as I said, I work mostly in another machine and this one is just for testing and net access. I just kept the IE window in a small corner of the screen and cursed every time I clicked a link in an e-mail and IE warned me that I was going away form the update and he was going to cancel the download if I insisted in going to other page. (It's been a day of select-link, copy-link, open another IE, paste-link :( )

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                                    Ryan Binns
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                                    Mad_Matrix wrote: It's been a day of select-link, copy-link, open another IE, paste-link Just unselect "Reuse windows for launching shortcuts" in the Advanced tab of the internet options. This forces it to open shortcuts in a new window. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                    Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                      Steve McLenithan wrote: Not possible. Not always. IE and other browsers and a lot of servers have the ability to compress the data before they transmit it. The browser handles this transparently, and it reports the speed based on the UNcompressed data. I have often got 14KB/s from a 56k connection continually across a 2-3MB file. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                      Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                      Steve McLenithan
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                                      Ah. That would explain why text/html/xml/mdb files download quickly.

                                      Steve McLenithan
                                      Is Bert Evil?

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