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Windows Update is so sllooooowwwww...

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  • R Rohit Sinha

    I get 6-7kbps if I am lucky. Normally I get somewhere from 2-5kbps, on bad days it's even less than that. So my 56kbps modem is actually 5-6kbps.
    Regards,

    Rohit Sinha

    Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
    - Mother Teresa

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    Domenic Denicola
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    Rohit  Sinha wrote: So my 56kbps modem is actually 5-6kbps. You may want to differentiate between bits per second and bytes per second.


    -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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      Get your IT people to install a SUS server, it will cache the updates localy for you, much faster. Stephen

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      John M Drescher
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      What is a SUS server? John

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      • D Domenic Denicola

        Rohit  Sinha wrote: So my 56kbps modem is actually 5-6kbps. You may want to differentiate between bits per second and bytes per second.


        -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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        Rohit Sinha
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        Oops. Yes of course I meant KBps instead of kbps.
        Regards,

        Rohit Sinha

        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
        - Mother Teresa

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        • R Rohit Sinha

          Oops. Yes of course I meant KBps instead of kbps.
          Regards,

          Rohit Sinha

          Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
          - Mother Teresa

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          Domenic Denicola
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          Ya, but what I meant was that your modem says 56 Kbps, but your download speed is measured in KBps (or, more familiar I would imagine, KB/s). So really a modem of 56 Kbps, which is actually 53 for some random reason, gives 53 / 8 = 6.625 KB/s.


          -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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            Please note that I was getting that speed (thank god that it has finished the download now, even though one of the updates failed to download :mad: ) only from the Windows Update site. Anywhere else I choosed to go, I've got the normal speed (I have 512 kbit/s on cable). Thank god that I'm not on dialup any more... My phone company would like very much that I stayed about 4 1/2 hours online (just to get those damned updates) :-D

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            Rickard Andersson20
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            Mad_Matrix wrote: I have 512 kbit/s on cable Wow that's much better than 30kbit/s! :) Soon I can say bye bye to my ISDN and say welcome to ADSL 0,5Mbit/s!!!!!!!! No minute rate or slow ~7kb/s anymore! Just ~$32/month and perhaps 60kb/s!!!! Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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              Ya, but what I meant was that your modem says 56 Kbps, but your download speed is measured in KBps (or, more familiar I would imagine, KB/s). So really a modem of 56 Kbps, which is actually 53 for some random reason, gives 53 / 8 = 6.625 KB/s.


              -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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              Rohit Sinha
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              OK, but I have seen it go as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes, but this is a bit rare. But you are right about modem speed being in kbps and the download speed in KBps.
              Regards,

              Rohit Sinha

              Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
              - Mother Teresa

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              • D Domenic Denicola

                Ya, but what I meant was that your modem says 56 Kbps, but your download speed is measured in KBps (or, more familiar I would imagine, KB/s). So really a modem of 56 Kbps, which is actually 53 for some random reason, gives 53 / 8 = 6.625 KB/s.


                -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] “I was born human. But this was an accident of fate—a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change…”

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                Rickard Andersson20
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                Domenic [Geekn] wrote: 56 Kbps Isn't it 56Kbits and not 56Kbps? :) Not that I want to be Mr. Perfect or so... but... :) Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                • R Rohit Sinha

                  OK, but I have seen it go as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes, but this is a bit rare. But you are right about modem speed being in kbps and the download speed in KBps.
                  Regards,

                  Rohit Sinha

                  Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                  - Mother Teresa

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                  Steve McLenithan
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                  Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

                  Steve McLenithan
                  Is Bert Evil?

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                    Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

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                    Is Bert Evil?

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                    Steve McLenithan wrote: While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it Coool! I never knew that! ;) Now I know why I download in 30Kb/s every 2-3 seconds with my ISDN! Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                    • S Steve McLenithan

                      Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

                      Steve McLenithan
                      Is Bert Evil?

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                      Rohit Sinha
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                      Oooh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. :)
                      Regards,

                      Rohit Sinha

                      Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                      - Mother Teresa

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                        Mad_Matrix wrote: I have 512 kbit/s on cable Wow that's much better than 30kbit/s! :) Soon I can say bye bye to my ISDN and say welcome to ADSL 0,5Mbit/s!!!!!!!! No minute rate or slow ~7kb/s anymore! Just ~$32/month and perhaps 60kb/s!!!! Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                        Rickard Andersson8 wrote: Soon I can say bye bye to my ISDN and say welcome to ADSL 0,5Mbit/s!!!!!!!! You can't imagine how your net attitude will change ;) When I was on dialup (56 Kbits/s), I always checked the size of the downloads and was always looking to the clock to check how much time I was online. A download of 3Mb would made me think twice if I really need that file. Since I've got cable, with no more timed access and with 8 Gb/month of downloads, I just don't care anymore if the file is big or small :) I just download it and keep on going... Just to give you an example: Two years ago, I decided to try Linux and asked a friend of mine to get me the Debian 2.0 CDs (3 cds). Some months ago, Debian released version 3.0 and I didn't think twice on downloading the full set of cds (7 cds with Linux and applications). I just kicked getright and let it work without worries :cool:

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                        • J John M Drescher

                          What is a SUS server? John

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                          stephen woolhead
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                          SUS = Software Update Services http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/windowsupdate/sus/default.asp Will not handle things like IE or MediaPlayer, but will deal with most other patches for you, and is a bargin at the price (free). Windows OS only, for things like Exchange and SQL Server look at UpdateExpert or Hfnetchk Stephen

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                            SUS = Software Update Services http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/windowsupdate/sus/default.asp Will not handle things like IE or MediaPlayer, but will deal with most other patches for you, and is a bargin at the price (free). Windows OS only, for things like Exchange and SQL Server look at UpdateExpert or Hfnetchk Stephen

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                            John M Drescher
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                            Thank You. This could help a lot. John

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                            • S Steve McLenithan

                              Rohit  Sinha wrote: as high as 13-14 KBps sometimes Not possible. What you have seen is a misreport. While windows is waiting for you to choose a filename for a download, it has already started downloading it and then misreports the speed at which it is downloading for a few seconds until it "realizes" its mistake.

                              Steve McLenithan
                              Is Bert Evil?

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                              Steve McLenithan wrote: Not possible. Not always. IE and other browsers and a lot of servers have the ability to compress the data before they transmit it. The browser handles this transparently, and it reports the speed based on the UNcompressed data. I have often got 14KB/s from a 56k connection continually across a 2-3MB file. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                              Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                Yes, I know... But, as I said, I work mostly in another machine and this one is just for testing and net access. I just kept the IE window in a small corner of the screen and cursed every time I clicked a link in an e-mail and IE warned me that I was going away form the update and he was going to cancel the download if I insisted in going to other page. (It's been a day of select-link, copy-link, open another IE, paste-link :( )

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                                Ryan Binns
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                                Mad_Matrix wrote: It's been a day of select-link, copy-link, open another IE, paste-link Just unselect "Reuse windows for launching shortcuts" in the Advanced tab of the internet options. This forces it to open shortcuts in a new window. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                  Steve McLenithan wrote: Not possible. Not always. IE and other browsers and a lot of servers have the ability to compress the data before they transmit it. The browser handles this transparently, and it reports the speed based on the UNcompressed data. I have often got 14KB/s from a 56k connection continually across a 2-3MB file. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                  Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                  Steve McLenithan
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                                  Ah. That would explain why text/html/xml/mdb files download quickly.

                                  Steve McLenithan
                                  Is Bert Evil?

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