If You Had It To Do Again...
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform? I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime... Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website? Will Rogers never met me.
I wonder if any Microsoft tools/products were used to make WordPress tools/products?
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Depends on if it's done well or not I'd say.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Good or bad, it's a start. It's usually quicker to fix an existing attempt than to start from scratch (I'm assuming that the guys had an idea what was needed, and just couldn't implement in time).
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I wonder if any Microsoft tools/products were used to make WordPress tools/products?
QBasic, I think.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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QBasic, I think.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform? I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime... Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website? Will Rogers never met me.
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If it's already half-done in wordpress, why triple your pain?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Only a little less than half done with Umbraco, and there's no PHP! :-D
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QBasic, I think.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Funny you should mention that, because now there is now a new IDE to develop Android apps in pseudo-VB.NET.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform? I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime... Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website? Will Rogers never met me.
It all comes down to what you need, as usual. If it is just to display some marketing content with a few forms to get some customers in contact - wordpress all the way. There's loads of templates out there, and if you can't find one that fits you can find people that produce wordpress templates for you for very small amounts of money. WordPress is all yucky, and you'll need to take a shower afterwards, but you'll be up and going so quickly with a pretty great result. I inherited the management of a WordPress site that made use of the Advanced Custom Fields plugin. You can attach any sort of fields to any post type (blog, page etc). It made getting a UI to edit content so simple, and the backend php was a breeze to copy and paste to get going. Each time I tinker with it I mentally recoil in horror at just how much boilerplate I'd have to write to get the same effect in asp.net MVC. If you're after something a bit less one-size-fits-all, I'd go for a static site generator. Theres LOADS of them out there. Set up your templates, content markdown, run a command, and out pops regular plain html read to be statically served. But for a complete web app - I can't go past asp.net. I love the debugging experience. Node in vscode is almost as nice, but I'm just not as familiar with it.
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Funny you should mention that, because now there is now a new IDE to develop Android apps in pseudo-VB.NET.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
It's been around for a few years at least. And it's pretty amazing. It's not going to be able to write every single type of app out there, but it certainly does exactly what it says it does.
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform? I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime... Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website? Will Rogers never met me.
While I usually have a strong opinion one way or the other, in this case, it depends. If I'm doing a basically static site, WordPress, SquareSpace, etc, are great for putting together something that looks decent. If it's a small site I'm building from scratch that requires a database, business logic, etc., then I use C#/.NET and my own server code (I don't even tie in to IIS.) So that's a partial "Microsoft tools." I haven't needed to use EF, Razor, ASP.NET, because I'm not very fond of them, but since the rest of the Microsoft world goes one of those routes, I end up having to use them occasionally. Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
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Funny you should mention that, because now there is now a new IDE to develop Android apps in pseudo-VB.NET.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
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Funny you should mention that, because now there is now a new IDE to develop Android apps in pseudo-VB.NET.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
Maybe I should be ashamed, but I actually like the idea!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Now you show some respect for curly braces[1], young man. And mind you place the opening one on a new damned line! :mad: [1] curly is actually redundant here.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform? I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime... Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website? Will Rogers never met me.
Have you tried Python's Django? Quickest damned web site I've even seen, and surprised nobody's mentioned it. The longest task was introducing myself to PostgreSQL.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
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It all comes down to what you need, as usual. If it is just to display some marketing content with a few forms to get some customers in contact - wordpress all the way. There's loads of templates out there, and if you can't find one that fits you can find people that produce wordpress templates for you for very small amounts of money. WordPress is all yucky, and you'll need to take a shower afterwards, but you'll be up and going so quickly with a pretty great result. I inherited the management of a WordPress site that made use of the Advanced Custom Fields plugin. You can attach any sort of fields to any post type (blog, page etc). It made getting a UI to edit content so simple, and the backend php was a breeze to copy and paste to get going. Each time I tinker with it I mentally recoil in horror at just how much boilerplate I'd have to write to get the same effect in asp.net MVC. If you're after something a bit less one-size-fits-all, I'd go for a static site generator. Theres LOADS of them out there. Set up your templates, content markdown, run a command, and out pops regular plain html read to be statically served. But for a complete web app - I can't go past asp.net. I love the debugging experience. Node in vscode is almost as nice, but I'm just not as familiar with it.
+5 for the sensible answer.
Jeremy Falcon
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform? I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime... Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website? Will Rogers never met me.
It really depends on how much the business is willing to spend on it (time/money wise).
Jeremy Falcon
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform? I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime... Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website? Will Rogers never met me.
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I prefer using notepad++ (a simple word processor) instead of some Microsoft tools. :~
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VS Code is getting very good as well. Very extension based, to adapt to your language and style.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
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While I usually have a strong opinion one way or the other, in this case, it depends. If I'm doing a basically static site, WordPress, SquareSpace, etc, are great for putting together something that looks decent. If it's a small site I'm building from scratch that requires a database, business logic, etc., then I use C#/.NET and my own server code (I don't even tie in to IIS.) So that's a partial "Microsoft tools." I haven't needed to use EF, Razor, ASP.NET, because I'm not very fond of them, but since the rest of the Microsoft world goes one of those routes, I end up having to use them occasionally. Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
These days I only use Razor to render my Angular templates. I do that to leverage the Data Annotations metadata, like 'Display Name', or 'DataType', etc. The data goes straight to the Angular module from a Web API.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
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If it's already half-done in wordpress, why triple your pain?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
At this point, it's far less than half done. There's a front page with pictures and that's about it! Will Rogers never met me.
