Breaking News: Windows 8 / 10 calculator removes Natural Log (ln) button
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OriginalGriff wrote:
I say "that's clever!" except I'd need the antonym. And probably a few swear words
Agree 100%! Can you imagine explaining this type of UI design to your manager? "Oh, yeah, we hid that, unless you widen the window." "WHAT!"
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that could be funny... you don't have it as large as mine, that's why you can't use it :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I was wondering if I just missed it. I stretched mine out and took a snapshot. Do you see it? Am I missing it? ln button? calculator image[^] This is really odd. It's probably a security issue, right? :laugh:
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You need to make it wider: Calculator.png (12.2 KB)[^]
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You need to make it wider: Calculator.png (12.2 KB)[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Oh my gosh!!! I maximized it and now I see it!!!! This is the worst thing ______EVER_____!!!!!! X| X| Microsoft, you giant failure. I'm laughing so hard.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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that could be funny... you don't have it as large as mine, that's why you can't use it :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Yeah, this is the ___CRAZIEST UI DESIGN EVER!!!!____ I maximized the window and I finally see it. X| X| X| What a hilarious joke!!! Except, it's not funny. I think I get it.... It's actually punishment for using their app. Microsoft has begun to punish users for using their stuff. It makes sense now. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Oh my gosh!!! I maximized it and now I see it!!!! This is the worst thing ______EVER_____!!!!!! X| X| Microsoft, you giant failure. I'm laughing so hard.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Alternatively, click the ↑ button (third from the top, left column) to reveal the additional options.
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So the functions you can perform depend on the width of your screen? I say "that's clever!" except I'd need the antonym. And probably a few swear words.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
You can also get to the additional functions with the ↑ key. But it's still not the best design. :)
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Have you noticed that the ln (natural log) button is removed from Windows 8 / Win 10 calculator? You can see the (original - win xp, win vista, win 7) had it. Old Windows Calculator (image)[^] Why they remove that? Oh, here's the terribly useful Windows 10 doc on the calculator. Ugh! Calculator in Windows 10[^] X| If you find the ln button in the Windows 10 calculator, please let me know. I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner. :laugh:
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Alternatively, click the ↑ button (third from the top, left column) to reveal the additional options.
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Oh my gosh!!! That is what that stupid UP Arrow is for. Never would've guessed that. I think I've figured out Microsoft's design choices... It's actually punishment for using their app. Microsoft has begun to punish users for using their stuff. It makes sense now. :laugh: :laugh: That's what Metro means. It's code for "PUNISH THE USER"!! :laugh: :laugh:
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Someone else mentioned that too. I never would've guessed that up arrow meant that. I think Microsoft has instituted a new UI Design goal...Punish the user :laugh: :laugh: It's actually punishment for using their app. Microsoft has begun to punish users for using their stuff. It makes sense now.
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Oh my gosh!!! That is what that stupid UP Arrow is for. Never would've guessed that. I think I've figured out Microsoft's design choices... It's actually punishment for using their app. Microsoft has begun to punish users for using their stuff. It makes sense now. :laugh: :laugh: That's what Metro means. It's code for "PUNISH THE USER"!! :laugh: :laugh:
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It's not called "Metro" any more. It's called "UWP". Which stands for "the User is Wrong and must be Punished". :-D
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It's not called "Metro" any more. It's called "UWP". Which stands for "the User is Wrong and must be Punished". :-D
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Richard Deeming wrote:
Which stands for "the User is Wrong and must be Punished".
That's good. We all know it's all based upon punishment. :D
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It's not called "Metro" any more. It's called "UWP". Which stands for "the User is Wrong and must be Punished". :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
This is additionally funny because over the weekend while developing my UWP I learned that Universal doesn't mean the app will run on Win8.x and Win10 --- not everywhere and I made this graphic in honor of the terrible UWP experience. Universal - Not what you think it means[^]
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Have you noticed that the ln (natural log) button is removed from Windows 8 / Win 10 calculator? You can see the (original - win xp, win vista, win 7) had it. Old Windows Calculator (image)[^] Why they remove that? Oh, here's the terribly useful Windows 10 doc on the calculator. Ugh! Calculator in Windows 10[^] X| If you find the ln button in the Windows 10 calculator, please let me know. I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner. :laugh:
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Click the UP arrow on the calculator display. It will change log10 to ln, 10^x to e^x, etc. EDIT: Arggh! beaten by Richard!
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Click the UP arrow on the calculator display. It will change log10 to ln, 10^x to e^x, etc. EDIT: Arggh! beaten by Richard!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Thanks very much. This is terrible UI design. Maybe some enjoy this type of thing. Ugh!
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Click the UP arrow on the calculator display. It will change log10 to ln, 10^x to e^x, etc. EDIT: Arggh! beaten by Richard!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Also, has anyone noticed that you CANNOT resize the calc window from the top? That's a cool new behavior of the new Windows UI too, isn't it? More user punishment. Here's the insider view of the MS devs at work. Dev 1: Can you imagine when the user (giggle, snort) attempts to resize from the top of the window and he cannot get a resize arrow (giggle, giggle)? Dev 2: That is so funny. Hahaha, s/he'll be chasing the top edge around like a lunatic. X| X| X|
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Alternatively, click the ↑ button (third from the top, left column) to reveal the additional options.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
It is not vey much different that many hardware calculators that have a SHIFT button...
Philippe Mori
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Oh my gosh!!! That is what that stupid UP Arrow is for. Never would've guessed that. I think I've figured out Microsoft's design choices... It's actually punishment for using their app. Microsoft has begun to punish users for using their stuff. It makes sense now. :laugh: :laugh: That's what Metro means. It's code for "PUNISH THE USER"!! :laugh: :laugh:
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raddevus wrote:
Never would've guessed that.
That's how TI scientific calculators work. They have a 2nd button to get to the second functions. Not saying it's a good design for an app but if you are familiar with physical calculators then it's pretty easy to see that all those buttons had the up arrow on them.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Also, has anyone noticed that you CANNOT resize the calc window from the top? That's a cool new behavior of the new Windows UI too, isn't it? More user punishment. Here's the insider view of the MS devs at work. Dev 1: Can you imagine when the user (giggle, snort) attempts to resize from the top of the window and he cannot get a resize arrow (giggle, giggle)? Dev 2: That is so funny. Hahaha, s/he'll be chasing the top edge around like a lunatic. X| X| X|
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raddevus wrote:
Never would've guessed that.
That's how TI scientific calculators work. They have a 2nd button to get to the second functions. Not saying it's a good design for an app but if you are familiar with physical calculators then it's pretty easy to see that all those buttons had the up arrow on them.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
They have a 2nd button to get to the second functions
That is a good explanation of that. I agree. However, the UI designers definitely needed to think outside that box a bit, I think. It's almost like an airplane engineer thinking, "well, I have to make this thing just like a car, because that is what people know. Now, where do I put the turn signals? Right here by the steering wheel of course." :)
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raddevus wrote:
More user punishment.
If only Microsoft would make it possible to write apps that are better than theirs. :-\
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They paid Google to do that. See Anrdoid Studio. :laugh: :laugh:
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