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    dan sh
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    I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.

    "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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      I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.

      "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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      Lost User
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      lw@zi wrote:

      Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is.

      Let me see if I have correctly translated this: I just discovered that I don't how to program because the .NET framework does everything for me. Did I get that right? Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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        lw@zi wrote:

        Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is.

        Let me see if I have correctly translated this: I just discovered that I don't how to program because the .NET framework does everything for me. Did I get that right? Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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        dan sh
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        LOL, no. What I mean to say is that even now, there are so many non-programming trivial tasks that require too much to time and effort. Plus, I noticed that there is a lot of effort that goes in to integrating various tools that are employed. In the .Net framework, most of the things are provided by default.

        "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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          I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.

          "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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          Lost User
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          Are you in marketing?

          Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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            Are you in marketing?

            Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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            dan sh
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            Ssshh...

            "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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              I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.

              "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              Yah it looks like I am also going to have to dip into the non MS universe out there. I am not looking forward to it at all. Still I detest the web stack that needs to be dealt with, doing it in Java can't be all that much worse can it.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Yah it looks like I am also going to have to dip into the non MS universe out there. I am not looking forward to it at all. Still I detest the web stack that needs to be dealt with, doing it in Java can't be all that much worse can it.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                It might be. Here are few things you might end up using: Gulp Grunt Maven Docker GIT Blah Doink jMeter Phew jBoss Cradle Toothpick Gradle Grave ...and many more in a simple application I just made up few names here.

                "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                  It might be. Here are few things you might end up using: Gulp Grunt Maven Docker GIT Blah Doink jMeter Phew jBoss Cradle Toothpick Gradle Grave ...and many more in a simple application I just made up few names here.

                  "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                  "Grave" probably more sooner than later :laugh:

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                    It might be. Here are few things you might end up using: Gulp Grunt Maven Docker GIT Blah Doink jMeter Phew jBoss Cradle Toothpick Gradle Grave ...and many more in a simple application I just made up few names here.

                    "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    lw@zi wrote:

                    I just made up few names here.

                    No you didn't... Blah.security J2EE Security Framework - Free download[^] Doink[^] GitHub - mirikle/phew: Easy horizontal scrolling framework[^] GitHub - stephanenicolas/toothpick: A scope tree based Dependency Injection (DI) library for Java[^] :laugh:

                    arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly Sander's bits - Writing the code you need

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                      lw@zi wrote:

                      Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is.

                      Let me see if I have correctly translated this: I just discovered that I don't how to program because the .NET framework does everything for me. Did I get that right? Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                      Jon McKee
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                      Spotted the person that hates reusability :laugh: In all seriousness though, why waste your time coding something if an existing implementation does it within requirements? That just equates to less time on CodeProject (sellout mode activated, staff plz? Kappa). And we all want to maximize our time :thumbsup: Would you write your own compiler every time you start a project because "using an IDE just shows you don't know how to program?"

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                        Yah it looks like I am also going to have to dip into the non MS universe out there. I am not looking forward to it at all. Still I detest the web stack that needs to be dealt with, doing it in Java can't be all that much worse can it.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        Jon McKee
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                        Obligatory How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016 – Hacker Noon[^].

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                          lw@zi wrote:

                          I just made up few names here.

                          No you didn't... Blah.security J2EE Security Framework - Free download[^] Doink[^] GitHub - mirikle/phew: Easy horizontal scrolling framework[^] GitHub - stephanenicolas/toothpick: A scope tree based Dependency Injection (DI) library for Java[^] :laugh:

                          arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly Sander's bits - Writing the code you need

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                          dan sh
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                          Bloody hell.

                          "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                            Obligatory How it feels to learn JavaScript in 2016 – Hacker Noon[^].

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                            dan sh
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                            Yes, that is awesome. Read it sometime back, sent it to a JS enthusiast at work. He did not like it.

                            "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                              Yes, that is awesome. Read it sometime back, sent it to a JS enthusiast at work. He did not like it.

                              "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                              Because he knows it's true. Elm is the future. Embrace it or be ass-laminated :laugh: (still the best Borg bumper-sticker I've ever seen)

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                                I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.

                                "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                I also wish I could be ten years younger when I also still was in the euphoria stage of my relation to Mickeysoft.

                                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                                  Spotted the person that hates reusability :laugh: In all seriousness though, why waste your time coding something if an existing implementation does it within requirements? That just equates to less time on CodeProject (sellout mode activated, staff plz? Kappa). And we all want to maximize our time :thumbsup: Would you write your own compiler every time you start a project because "using an IDE just shows you don't know how to program?"

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                                  Keviniano Gayo
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                                  I agree! Just like SO does. Why waste time figuring out how to fixed a trivial error when someone already fixed it. :-)

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                                    I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.

                                    "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                    iskSYS
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                                    You are completely right. I felt exactly the same when I moved from developing in .net to Java. Now let's see how long this feeling lasts and how long it will take you to realize how superior Java is :) Good luck!

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                                      Bloody hell.

                                      "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                      milo xml
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                                      Thank you for this reaction. Made me laugh harder than it should have.

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                                      • D dan sh

                                        I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.

                                        "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                        Kirill Illenseer
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                                        Why not simply using Mono then? It's not a Microsoft technology, but it's a familiar environment to any .NET programmer.

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                                          lw@zi wrote:

                                          Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is.

                                          Let me see if I have correctly translated this: I just discovered that I don't how to program because the .NET framework does everything for me. Did I get that right? Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                                          KC CahabaGBA
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                                          Positions like this are akin to saying that you're not a 'real mechanic' unless you smelt your own metal for the engine blocks in the cars you work on. Get real! It's not the tools we use, its how we use them.

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