Microsoft, much appreciated.
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lw@zi wrote:
I just made up few names here.
No you didn't... Blah.security J2EE Security Framework - Free download[^] Doink[^] GitHub - mirikle/phew: Easy horizontal scrolling framework[^] GitHub - stephanenicolas/toothpick: A scope tree based Dependency Injection (DI) library for Java[^] :laugh:
arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly Sander's bits - Writing the code you need
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I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
I also wish I could be ten years younger when I also still was in the euphoria stage of my relation to Mickeysoft.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
Spotted the person that hates reusability :laugh: In all seriousness though, why waste your time coding something if an existing implementation does it within requirements? That just equates to less time on CodeProject (sellout mode activated, staff plz? Kappa). And we all want to maximize our time :thumbsup: Would you write your own compiler every time you start a project because "using an IDE just shows you don't know how to program?"
I agree! Just like SO does. Why waste time figuring out how to fixed a trivial error when someone already fixed it. :-)
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I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
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I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
Why not simply using Mono then? It's not a Microsoft technology, but it's a familiar environment to any .NET programmer.
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lw@zi wrote:
Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is.
Let me see if I have correctly translated this: I just discovered that I don't how to program because the .NET framework does everything for me. Did I get that right? Best Wishes, -David Delaune
Positions like this are akin to saying that you're not a 'real mechanic' unless you smelt your own metal for the engine blocks in the cars you work on. Get real! It's not the tools we use, its how we use them.
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I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
100%. During a short "corporate" stint I was forced to use Java for a new project; had to go shopping: Java Swing Struts Apache Tomcat JBoss Enterprise Beans NetBeans Some other "beans" etc, etc. I hadn't finished "shopping", when they said we could use .NET (but not the "latest" version because we didn't want to "push it"). Even with .NET 2.0, it was better than the alternatives. Yes, I too found a "home" in .NET (and I just say I don't "do" the other stuff anymore).
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I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
My perspective on this is a bit different. yeah, MSFT does a great job of integrating and making their environment work well together, but at what costs to me over time. I have been developing software for over 30 years. C was one of many new found loves in the early days. And MSFT would push new features in, but stop supporting the other stuff pretty quickly. We had a 32 bit rewrite of a library that we could NOT recompile in 16 bit mode because of MSFT not implementing the new features for 16 bit C compiler. We had to get TurboC to compile the 16 bit version from the 32 bit version MSFT let the guy write. It was a pain. It was that, or support 2 drastically different code bases. Then, we have the NIGHTMARE Visual Studio upgrade policies. Where they remove support for things, and your old code base wont build. I usually find VS developers with 2 and usually 3 different VS versions installed on their machines if they have to support legacy code. Yes, for a turnkey development environment... Go MSFT. But for long-term support of code and environments, over 3-5 iterations of VS wow... But what they did was hide the details, making it easier to get started. Good luck when you need to use PostgresSQL or Oracle, and you have to spend an hour or two finding the magic settings to making the connections between prod and dev work correctly. Even worse with a new release. In the end, confusion simply means you are learning something... :-)
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Because he knows it's true. Elm is the future. Embrace it or be ass-laminated :laugh: (still the best Borg bumper-sticker I've ever seen)
Just started using javascript again after a ten year break. Oh boy has it changed? Except for one thing, it's still an absolute pig to debug or have I been spoiled by C#?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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lw@zi wrote:
Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is.
Let me see if I have correctly translated this: I just discovered that I don't how to program because the .NET framework does everything for me. Did I get that right? Best Wishes, -David Delaune
Why reinvent the wheel when someone else has already done it.
No matter where you go, there you are...~?~
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Just started using javascript again after a ten year break. Oh boy has it changed? Except for one thing, it's still an absolute pig to debug or have I been spoiled by C#?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
You've been spoiled...lol
No matter where you go, there you are...~?~
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Yah it looks like I am also going to have to dip into the non MS universe out there. I am not looking forward to it at all. Still I detest the web stack that needs to be dealt with, doing it in Java can't be all that much worse can it.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Heh, I've never been in the Microsoft world (except for some minor command line tools). As an embedded developer it's been RTOSes, hardware peripheral interfacing, DSP algorithms and C/C++ programming. .NET doesn't seem to be available for devices with small amounts of memory.
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I think I have posted this before. My new job requires me to not to be limited to MS technologies and hence I am learning other things. Looking at the state of other technologies, I really appreciate what MS has done with .Net framework. Often, in the workshops with technologically diverse audience, my response to "how do you do X?" is Visual Studio or framework provides this by default. I have always liked .Net framework even though I had little to no exposure to Java World and others. But now that I have to really deal with it, I see how awesome .Net framework is. Once again, thank you Microsoft. PS: Yes, I know pains of working with some MS offerings.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
Been doing development for over 35+ years and make a living based mostly on the innovations of two companies: Borland and Microsoft. And really based on a single person: Anders Hejlsberg. Sure I've done projects in other languages/platforms, but I always find home with Visual Studio. I really don't mind about the languages(Except I have a discriminate against Python for its indentation, reminded me of FORTRAN 77), it is the other IDEs that drive me nuts.
