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Am I the only C# develeoper who HATES web config files....?

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  • L Lost User

    David Radcliffe wrote:

    Does anyone know every section and item that a web config file can hold?

    You can create and add your own custom sections, so I guess the answer to that question is 'no' :) Have you tried appsettings.json yet?

    Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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    Dan Neely
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    I'm not sure how replacing a <> delimited tag soup with a {} delimited tag soup that doesn't allow comments is supposed to be an improvement. :rolleyes:

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      I'm not sure how replacing a <> delimited tag soup with a {} delimited tag soup that doesn't allow comments is supposed to be an improvement. :rolleyes:

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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      Lost User
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      I agree.. it's fine for simple stuff, much like XML was. When you've got 200+ lines of config json to look through, it's not so easy.. :~

      Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        web.config is child's play compared to WCF binding configuration options. X| Marc

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        :D lol

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        • D David Radcliffe 0

          These files are a pain to work with, are full of meaningless gibberish, and we are expected to add this guff without any support from Visual Studio... Does anyone know every section and item that a web config file can hold?

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          Ehsan Sajjad
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          I don't see any reason why a c# developer would hate web.config or app.config as they provide the flexibility to change the configuration level things without rebuilding and redeploying the application. They are quite useful in my opinion. :)

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          • M Marc Clifton

            web.config is child's play compared to WCF binding configuration options. X| Marc

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            Dave Kreskowiak
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            How dare you bring up such a vile topic. :rolleyes: Gives me the heebie jeebies.

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            • D David Radcliffe 0

              These files are a pain to work with, are full of meaningless gibberish, and we are expected to add this guff without any support from Visual Studio... Does anyone know every section and item that a web config file can hold?

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              Sometimes, code is easier.

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              • D David Radcliffe 0

                These files are a pain to work with, are full of meaningless gibberish, and we are expected to add this guff without any support from Visual Studio... Does anyone know every section and item that a web config file can hold?

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                Dave Kreskowiak
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                Nope! Most definitely not the only one. Though, I did just get done writing an interpreter that executes fairly simple scripts written in XML.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  web.config is child's play compared to WCF binding configuration options. X| Marc

                  Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                  raddevus
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                  Or take a look at applicationHost.config (c:\windows\system32\inetsrv\config\) (machine level IIS config) Then, you'll feel like your web.config is small. It's all relative. :laugh: Here's a snippet to help you feel better:

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                  • D David Radcliffe 0

                    These files are a pain to work with, are full of meaningless gibberish, and we are expected to add this guff without any support from Visual Studio... Does anyone know every section and item that a web config file can hold?

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                    David Radcliffe 0
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                    Ok, to clarify. The web/app config files of themselves are ok. Better than Registry entries ;) Working with them, however, is a pain. There's very little intellisense, and finding out what you need to add is difficult. Yes, I am proposing something better - Visual Studio should have a GUI tool to create these files, with drop-down menus of choices, check-boxes for true/false options, etc.

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      You're going to propose a better alternative?

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                      raddevus
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                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      You're going to propose a better alternative?

                      Yes, if you're going to bring up a problem to the forum, then you need to provide your solution too. :laugh:

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        Sometimes, code is easier.

                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                        raddevus
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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                        Sometimes, code is easier.

                        I see the italics. But are you saying, "forget config files, let's use hard-coded" values?" :)

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                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                          Nope! Most definitely not the only one. Though, I did just get done writing an interpreter that executes fairly simple scripts written in XML.

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                          raddevus
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                          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                          executes fairly simple scripts written in XML

                          Oh, a DSL[^]?

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            You're going to propose a better alternative?

                            Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            Bring back JCL!

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                            • R raddevus

                              Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                              executes fairly simple scripts written in XML

                              Oh, a DSL[^]?

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                              Dave Kreskowiak
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                              Yep. It's for a wrapper we use in all of our packaged software we deploy. Since we have to support 8 different platforms, it makes packaging and deploying software a bit ... complicated. Script support makes life a whole lot easier. Using an XML-based solution made parsing and syntax checking a piece of cake and I had to bang out a solution quickly. This also makes it easy for our QA and deployment tools to parse and check too.

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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                Yep. It's for a wrapper we use in all of our packaged software we deploy. Since we have to support 8 different platforms, it makes packaging and deploying software a bit ... complicated. Script support makes life a whole lot easier. Using an XML-based solution made parsing and syntax checking a piece of cake and I had to bang out a solution quickly. This also makes it easy for our QA and deployment tools to parse and check too.

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                                raddevus
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                                Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like one of the better uses of XML.

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                                  Lucky you weren't around when we were using the Registry....

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Try keeping up with INI files. :-\

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                                    Try keeping up with INI files. :-\

                                    When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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                                    F ES Sitecore
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                                    You're telling me about INI files? I've installed OS/2....

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                                      You're telling me about INI files? I've installed OS/2....

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                                      Lost User
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                                      OS/2? OS/2!?! For goodness sake why? Is it a punishment or something? :wtf:

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                                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                        Bring back JCL!

                                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        I am too young to even know what you're talking about... :~

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                                        • R raddevus

                                          Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like one of the better uses of XML.

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                                          Dave Kreskowiak
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                                          It's a lot simpler to understand than Powershell, especially for people who don't have a coding background.

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