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Am I the only C# develeoper who HATES web config files....?

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  • D David Radcliffe 0

    These files are a pain to work with, are full of meaningless gibberish, and we are expected to add this guff without any support from Visual Studio... Does anyone know every section and item that a web config file can hold?

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    Dave Kreskowiak
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    Nope! Most definitely not the only one. Though, I did just get done writing an interpreter that executes fairly simple scripts written in XML.

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      web.config is child's play compared to WCF binding configuration options. X| Marc

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      Or take a look at applicationHost.config (c:\windows\system32\inetsrv\config\) (machine level IIS config) Then, you'll feel like your web.config is small. It's all relative. :laugh: Here's a snippet to help you feel better:

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      • D David Radcliffe 0

        These files are a pain to work with, are full of meaningless gibberish, and we are expected to add this guff without any support from Visual Studio... Does anyone know every section and item that a web config file can hold?

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        Ok, to clarify. The web/app config files of themselves are ok. Better than Registry entries ;) Working with them, however, is a pain. There's very little intellisense, and finding out what you need to add is difficult. Yes, I am proposing something better - Visual Studio should have a GUI tool to create these files, with drop-down menus of choices, check-boxes for true/false options, etc.

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          You're going to propose a better alternative?

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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          You're going to propose a better alternative?

          Yes, if you're going to bring up a problem to the forum, then you need to provide your solution too. :laugh:

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Sometimes, code is easier.

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

            Sometimes, code is easier.

            I see the italics. But are you saying, "forget config files, let's use hard-coded" values?" :)

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            • D Dave Kreskowiak

              Nope! Most definitely not the only one. Though, I did just get done writing an interpreter that executes fairly simple scripts written in XML.

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              Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

              executes fairly simple scripts written in XML

              Oh, a DSL[^]?

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                You're going to propose a better alternative?

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                Bring back JCL!

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                  Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                  executes fairly simple scripts written in XML

                  Oh, a DSL[^]?

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                  Yep. It's for a wrapper we use in all of our packaged software we deploy. Since we have to support 8 different platforms, it makes packaging and deploying software a bit ... complicated. Script support makes life a whole lot easier. Using an XML-based solution made parsing and syntax checking a piece of cake and I had to bang out a solution quickly. This also makes it easy for our QA and deployment tools to parse and check too.

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                    Yep. It's for a wrapper we use in all of our packaged software we deploy. Since we have to support 8 different platforms, it makes packaging and deploying software a bit ... complicated. Script support makes life a whole lot easier. Using an XML-based solution made parsing and syntax checking a piece of cake and I had to bang out a solution quickly. This also makes it easy for our QA and deployment tools to parse and check too.

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                    raddevus
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                    Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like one of the better uses of XML.

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                      Lucky you weren't around when we were using the Registry....

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                      Try keeping up with INI files. :-\

                      When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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                        Try keeping up with INI files. :-\

                        When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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                        You're telling me about INI files? I've installed OS/2....

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                          You're telling me about INI files? I've installed OS/2....

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                          OS/2? OS/2!?! For goodness sake why? Is it a punishment or something? :wtf:

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                          • D Daniel Pfeffer

                            Bring back JCL!

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                            I am too young to even know what you're talking about... :~

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                              Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like one of the better uses of XML.

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                              It's a lot simpler to understand than Powershell, especially for people who don't have a coding background.

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                              • R raddevus

                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                                Sometimes, code is easier.

                                I see the italics. But are you saying, "forget config files, let's use hard-coded" values?" :)

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                                Yes, for simple use cases where the config never or seldomly changes. However, if you need to configure it on-the-fly or at install time, then config files are the way to go.

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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  Nope! Most definitely not the only one. Though, I did just get done writing an interpreter that executes fairly simple scripts written in XML.

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                                  Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                  executes fairly simple scripts written in XML.

                                  Why? Why not use XSLT? :rolleyes:

                                  #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                    Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                    executes fairly simple scripts written in XML.

                                    Why? Why not use XSLT? :rolleyes:

                                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                    Dave Kreskowiak
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                                    Because writing the XSD was bad enough! :-D

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                                      Because writing the XSD was bad enough! :-D

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      Ugh! Forsooth!

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                                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                        It's a lot simpler to understand than Powershell, especially for people who don't have a coding background.

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                                        Maybe you could share your little scripting language with an article on CP? Please?

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          I am too young to even know what you're talking about... :~

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                                          For those who are not (yet...) old farts, JCL was the Job Control Language used to set job parameters on IBM mainframes. It had a few variants, and so many options that most people got an expert to prepare the cards for them, and then re-used them for every job.

                                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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