VB haters, look away
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Slacker007 wrote:
C# was modeled mostly after Java and C++
Says you. :-D Here is another quote from a few pages later:
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Because C# is a hybrid of numerous languages, the result is a product that is as syntactically clean (if not cleaner) as Java, is about as simple as VB, and provides just about as much power and flexibility as C + +. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3129-3131). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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For example, like VB, C# supports the notion of class properties (as opposed to traditional getter and setter methods) and optional parameters. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3124-3125). Apress. Kindle Edition.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Medical fact - quitting VB now will greatly increase your lifespan. No citations needed. :-D
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Not a citation, but... When I first read the C# spec in 1999, someone asked me, "isn't that just Microsoft Java?"
That's what I meant. When they did not want the licenses for J anymore and replaced it with C#, everyone claimed that C# was just a Java clone, totally ignoring that there were plenty of things that went further from the beginning (no primitive data types, a common CLR across .Net languages, properties for objects...)
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[Visual J++ - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual\_J%2B%2B)
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Microsoft later developed the C# ("C Sharp") language as the primary language for the .NET platform, which was in many ways influenced by Java; subsequently the .NET Framework shares many ideas in common with Java. Much like Java, C# is compiled to a type of bytecode (called CIL), and runs on top of a virtual machine called the Common Language Runtime in .NET. Visual Studio 2005 was the last release to include J#.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Sure, but even C# 1.0 took some things further than Java did at that time.
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Funny, C# was modeled mostly after Java and C++, but no one ever mentions the Java part.
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Sure, but even C# 1.0 took some things further than Java did at that time.
I agree, there was good (and new) stuff from the start - it was kind of like an improved C++/Java language from day one and has evolved from their ever since. J++ had some improvements over Java too, it was just a really poor choice of name that put off both Java and C++ developers from the start.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Slacker007 wrote:
C# was modeled mostly after Java and C++
Says you. :-D Here is another quote from a few pages later:
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Because C# is a hybrid of numerous languages, the result is a product that is as syntactically clean (if not cleaner) as Java, is about as simple as VB, and provides just about as much power and flexibility as C + +. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3129-3131). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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For example, like VB, C# supports the notion of class properties (as opposed to traditional getter and setter methods) and optional parameters. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3124-3125). Apress. Kindle Edition.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Having properties doesn't mean anything. Other languages have properties. Doesn't mean they're the basis for some other language
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
VB7 runtime, known as .NET.
Sorry, I can't find anything to support this statement. Care to share a link or two. Thanks.
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I agree, there was good (and new) stuff from the start - it was kind of like an improved C++/Java language from day one and has evolved from their ever since. J++ had some improvements over Java too, it was just a really poor choice of name that put off both Java and C++ developers from the start.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
The improvements on J++ were the reason for abandoning J++. Did they not put Microsoft before the choice of removing them or else losing the license for J++?
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Global variables! Shirley you like global variables!
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The improvements on J++ were the reason for abandoning J++. Did they not put Microsoft before the choice of removing them or else losing the license for J++?
It looks like it was more of a legal thing with Sun.. from 2002, [Sun, Microsoft settle Java suit - CNET](https://www.cnet.com/uk/news/sun-microsoft-settle-java-suit/)
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A Microsoft representative said the dispute lingered for too long. "We don't think anyone wins, but considering the lawsuit has been ongoing for three years, this is a good conclusion to this controversy," said Microsoft spokesman Jim Cullinan. With the deal struck, Cullinan said Microsoft will be allowed to continue to offer its existing Java products, including its popular J++ development tool, for the next seven years. Microsoft product manager Tony Goodhew said the company will include J++ as a separate CD with the next version of Visual Studio.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Thems fightin' words...
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Arrays start at 1 - just like when counting your fingers. C# (C, C++...) messed up, who counts anything from zero? It's unnatural, zero simply does not exist.
Sin tack the any key okay
Arrays in BASIC have always begun at zero... Though not many practitioners are smart enough to realize it.
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Arrays start at 1 - just like when counting your fingers. C# (C, C++...) messed up, who counts anything from zero? It's unnatural, zero simply does not exist.
Sin tack the any key okay
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Funny, C# was modeled mostly after Java and C++, but no one ever mentions the Java part.
Well - maybe because: what was Java modeled after ?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I'm reading a C# book that was recommended on here recently and found this gem in the beginning.
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The truth of the matter is that many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3123-3124). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Perhaps Delphi should be mentioned here ... [Anders Hejlsberg - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders\_Hejlsberg) Regards,
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Arrays start at 1 - just like when counting your fingers. C# (C, C++...) messed up, who counts anything from zero? It's unnatural, zero simply does not exist.
Sin tack the any key okay
Lopatir wrote:
zero simply does not exist.
0 - Wikipedia[^] Zero is a number and makes perfect sense to use it as an index in a collection/array.
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Perhaps Delphi should be mentioned here ... [Anders Hejlsberg - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders\_Hejlsberg) Regards,
Now we must talk about the Oracle at Delphi. Sheesh.... :)
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I'm reading a C# book that was recommended on here recently and found this gem in the beginning.
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The truth of the matter is that many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3123-3124). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Hear, hear !
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I'm reading a C# book that was recommended on here recently and found this gem in the beginning.
Quote:
The truth of the matter is that many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3123-3124). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Was happy that they finally updated the switch in C# to have be as flexible as the Visual Basic Select Case. Waited a long time for that one.
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Funny, C# was modeled mostly after Java and C++, but no one ever mentions the Java part.
Well, Java was based off C++ so there's that too.
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