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  • N Nelek

    I didn't ask about the terrorist attack. I asked about the one innocent in the van being attacked that he used in his message... see my first message and what I quoted in it.

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    Lost User
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    D***ed English confusion again. The terrorist was in the van, not the innocent tourist. But re-reading his original comment I can see how non-English speakers could read it.

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      Bullshit there is no parallel between two mutually antagonistic group having a go at each other and a single coward attacking unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a fucking van. If you meant that as humour it was in very bad taste. If you actually believe there is a parallel then you have a warped sense of balance.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      Lost User
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      You may like to take a look at Nelek's post at Re: Terrorism in Barcelona, Trump tweets...[^] and my response.

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        D***ed English confusion again. The terrorist was in the van, not the innocent tourist. But re-reading his original comment I can see how non-English speakers could read it.

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        Nelek
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        Ok... then I think I will clean up the thread... to avoid further missunderstandings

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • M Munchies_Matt

          "but there was violence on both sides!!!!!" Yeah, the police shot the assholes. Sometimes, you need to identify the assholes and deal with them. (Of course Trump didnt tweet this, I was merely drawing a parallel between biggoted racists and biggoted racists).

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          ZurdoDev
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          Munchies_Matt wrote:

          I was merely drawing a parallel

          Ya, you nailed it. The police are just a bunch of protesting violent people. Totally parallel. :rolleyes:

          There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • N Nelek

            Ok... then I think I will clean up the thread... to avoid further missunderstandings

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            Lost User
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            Actually it is a good lesson for the rest of us to try and write better English.

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            • L Lost User

              Actually it is a good lesson for the rest of us to try and write better English.

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              Nelek
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              Fine, then I leave it as it is.

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              • N Nelek

                I know about the terrorist attack. I meant that with the innocent guy being attacked in the van that he used as example answering you. see my first message and what I quoted in it.

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                Munchies_Matt
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                "unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a f***ing van." He meant the terrorists used a van to kill innocents, not that the innocent was in the van.

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                • Z ZurdoDev

                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  I was merely drawing a parallel

                  Ya, you nailed it. The police are just a bunch of protesting violent people. Totally parallel. :rolleyes:

                  There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  Munchies_Matt
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                  Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour? Here are some in the UK using violence on the far right. police control ultra right wing march in UK - Recherche Google[^]

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                    Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour? Here are some in the UK using violence on the far right. police control ultra right wing march in UK - Recherche Google[^]

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                    Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour?

                    Off into the weeds again. I don't think you ever understand anything I write. Granted, I may misunderstand you first, but every time you respond it is clear we are not on the same page or even in the same chapter.

                    There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      "unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a f***ing van." He meant the terrorists used a van to kill innocents, not that the innocent was in the van.

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                      Nelek
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                      Richard already clarified it... I just understood it the wrong way

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour?

                        Off into the weeds again. I don't think you ever understand anything I write. Granted, I may misunderstand you first, but every time you respond it is clear we are not on the same page or even in the same chapter.

                        There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        Munchies_Matt
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                        Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write? I often think it is because we read subtlety into words which you lack. ie, your statements really are as simplistically wrong as they appear at prima facie.

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                          Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write? I often think it is because we read subtlety into words which you lack. ie, your statements really are as simplistically wrong as they appear at prima facie.

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write?

                          Illiterate? No, it's because of the same thing you do to Trump. You make assumptions based on what I don't say. It's so hard for you to stay on point.

                          There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            Munchies_Matt wrote:

                            Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write?

                            Illiterate? No, it's because of the same thing you do to Trump. You make assumptions based on what I don't say. It's so hard for you to stay on point.

                            There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            I remember I actually explained something to you in depth, which I thought was pretty obvious, some time back on SB1.0. Your reaction was wow, thats pretty subtle.

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              "but there was violence on both sides!!!!!" Yeah, the police shot the assholes. Sometimes, you need to identify the assholes and deal with them. (Of course Trump didnt tweet this, I was merely drawing a parallel between biggoted racists and biggoted racists).

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                              The right wing nazi demonstrators (as despicable as they might be) had a bona fide permit from the authorities for their rally, where they got attacked by left wingers, while the police was munching donuts in their barracks. I doubt the terrorists could provide such documents.

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                                The right wing nazi demonstrators (as despicable as they might be) had a bona fide permit from the authorities for their rally, where they got attacked by left wingers, while the police was munching donuts in their barracks. I doubt the terrorists could provide such documents.

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                                Munchies_Matt
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                                While the US has no hate speech laws they have to expect this kind of violence and stop whining about it.

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                                • M Munchies_Matt

                                  While the US has no hate speech laws they have to expect this kind of violence and stop whining about it.

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                                  I agree, I place the blame at the local authorities. First of all they shouldn't have allowed the rally in the first place, but once allowed, they should have put heavy riot police in place, which was nowhere to be seen if you look at the videos.

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                                  • M Munchies_Matt

                                    While the US has no hate speech laws they have to expect this kind of violence and stop whining about it.

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                                    NotYourAverageGuy
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                                    Seem to me that you are the one that keeps whining on about it. Just saying...

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      D***ed English confusion again. The terrorist was in the van, not the innocent tourist. But re-reading his original comment I can see how non-English speakers could read it.

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                                      Mycroft Holmes
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                                      Thank you, I did not realise it could be misinterpreted, I am going to have to think through my sentence structure better.

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      • M Munchies_Matt

                                        I didn't forget it, it is in the eye of the beholder. YOU think Europeans are innocent, jihaddis dont, because their those European countries went to war in Iraq and killed muslims. And before you go off on one that is NOT what I think, that is what THEY think, OK? The fact is you have on the one hand, a bunch of assholes, and on the other normal, decent society (yes, relative to anti-semites antifa are normal). Society has a right and a duty to deal with assholes any way it feels fit, and while the US has no anti hate speech laws to make this right wing march illegal, whereby the police could act, then the populace will have to do the job. The same happened on a train out of Brussels. A jihaddi comes out of a toilet with an AK47 and in the absence of the police a British IT worker and two off duty US soldiers nailed the guy. Job done, asshole dealt with. As for Trump, I am, of course, deriding his inability to side with normal society and condemn out of hand the far right. His presidency is now at an end.

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                                        Mycroft Holmes
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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        YOU think Europeans are innocent, jihaddis dont,

                                        Point, I just can't take the middle east POV, I'm just thankful I live in a gentler, less savage age in a civilised (by my standards) part of the world. I think every country has horrors in their past, it seems most have grown out of the savagery that caused them.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          YOU think Europeans are innocent, jihaddis dont,

                                          Point, I just can't take the middle east POV, I'm just thankful I live in a gentler, less savage age in a civilised (by my standards) part of the world. I think every country has horrors in their past, it seems most have grown out of the savagery that caused them.

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          Munchies_Matt
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                                          As am I, and it sickens me that our gentler society and age is being lost to Islamic immigrants.

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