Terrorism in Barcelona, Trump tweets...
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I know about the terrorist attack. I meant that with the innocent guy being attacked in the van that he used as example answering you. see my first message and what I quoted in it.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
"unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a f***ing van." He meant the terrorists used a van to kill innocents, not that the innocent was in the van.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
I was merely drawing a parallel
Ya, you nailed it. The police are just a bunch of protesting violent people. Totally parallel. :rolleyes:
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour? Here are some in the UK using violence on the far right. police control ultra right wing march in UK - Recherche Google[^]
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Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour? Here are some in the UK using violence on the far right. police control ultra right wing march in UK - Recherche Google[^]
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour?
Off into the weeds again. I don't think you ever understand anything I write. Granted, I may misunderstand you first, but every time you respond it is clear we are not on the same page or even in the same chapter.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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"unsuspecting tourist who are minding their own business using a f***ing van." He meant the terrorists used a van to kill innocents, not that the innocent was in the van.
Richard already clarified it... I just understood it the wrong way
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Oh, so the police aren't members of society enforcing acceptable behaviour?
Off into the weeds again. I don't think you ever understand anything I write. Granted, I may misunderstand you first, but every time you respond it is clear we are not on the same page or even in the same chapter.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write? I often think it is because we read subtlety into words which you lack. ie, your statements really are as simplistically wrong as they appear at prima facie.
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Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write? I often think it is because we read subtlety into words which you lack. ie, your statements really are as simplistically wrong as they appear at prima facie.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write?
Illiterate? No, it's because of the same thing you do to Trump. You make assumptions based on what I don't say. It's so hard for you to stay on point.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why does everyone have the same reaction to what you write?
Illiterate? No, it's because of the same thing you do to Trump. You make assumptions based on what I don't say. It's so hard for you to stay on point.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I remember I actually explained something to you in depth, which I thought was pretty obvious, some time back on SB1.0. Your reaction was wow, thats pretty subtle.
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"but there was violence on both sides!!!!!" Yeah, the police shot the assholes. Sometimes, you need to identify the assholes and deal with them. (Of course Trump didnt tweet this, I was merely drawing a parallel between biggoted racists and biggoted racists).
The right wing nazi demonstrators (as despicable as they might be) had a bona fide permit from the authorities for their rally, where they got attacked by left wingers, while the police was munching donuts in their barracks. I doubt the terrorists could provide such documents.
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The right wing nazi demonstrators (as despicable as they might be) had a bona fide permit from the authorities for their rally, where they got attacked by left wingers, while the police was munching donuts in their barracks. I doubt the terrorists could provide such documents.
While the US has no hate speech laws they have to expect this kind of violence and stop whining about it.
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While the US has no hate speech laws they have to expect this kind of violence and stop whining about it.
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While the US has no hate speech laws they have to expect this kind of violence and stop whining about it.
Seem to me that you are the one that keeps whining on about it. Just saying...
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D***ed English confusion again. The terrorist was in the van, not the innocent tourist. But re-reading his original comment I can see how non-English speakers could read it.
Thank you, I did not realise it could be misinterpreted, I am going to have to think through my sentence structure better.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I didn't forget it, it is in the eye of the beholder. YOU think Europeans are innocent, jihaddis dont, because their those European countries went to war in Iraq and killed muslims. And before you go off on one that is NOT what I think, that is what THEY think, OK? The fact is you have on the one hand, a bunch of assholes, and on the other normal, decent society (yes, relative to anti-semites antifa are normal). Society has a right and a duty to deal with assholes any way it feels fit, and while the US has no anti hate speech laws to make this right wing march illegal, whereby the police could act, then the populace will have to do the job. The same happened on a train out of Brussels. A jihaddi comes out of a toilet with an AK47 and in the absence of the police a British IT worker and two off duty US soldiers nailed the guy. Job done, asshole dealt with. As for Trump, I am, of course, deriding his inability to side with normal society and condemn out of hand the far right. His presidency is now at an end.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
YOU think Europeans are innocent, jihaddis dont,
Point, I just can't take the middle east POV, I'm just thankful I live in a gentler, less savage age in a civilised (by my standards) part of the world. I think every country has horrors in their past, it seems most have grown out of the savagery that caused them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
YOU think Europeans are innocent, jihaddis dont,
Point, I just can't take the middle east POV, I'm just thankful I live in a gentler, less savage age in a civilised (by my standards) part of the world. I think every country has horrors in their past, it seems most have grown out of the savagery that caused them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
As am I, and it sickens me that our gentler society and age is being lost to Islamic immigrants.
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As am I, and it sickens me that our gentler society and age is being lost to Islamic immigrants.
Approximately 75 years ago, the "highly cultured and civilised" Germans started implementing their Final Solution to the Jewish Problem. Although the rest of the world found out a out this in short order (it was well-known by 1943), not one of the other "highly cultured and civilised" nations of the World would lift a finger to save the Jews. Now I, a Jew, am laughing. You stupid b*stards got rid of the harmless Jews, and in supposed expiation of your crime - have let in the terrorists and their fellow travellers. It couldn't have happened to nicer people!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Approximately 75 years ago, the "highly cultured and civilised" Germans started implementing their Final Solution to the Jewish Problem. Although the rest of the world found out a out this in short order (it was well-known by 1943), not one of the other "highly cultured and civilised" nations of the World would lift a finger to save the Jews. Now I, a Jew, am laughing. You stupid b*stards got rid of the harmless Jews, and in supposed expiation of your crime - have let in the terrorists and their fellow travellers. It couldn't have happened to nicer people!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Actually the rest of europe, and the US, knew about the Nazis treatment of jews in the 30s, and did nothing. In fact I believe one boat load was turned away from country after country. What would be interesting is to know why there was so much anti-semitism in Europe in the 19th century-WWII period. Did they really have a strangle hold over money as is often stated?
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Actually the rest of europe, and the US, knew about the Nazis treatment of jews in the 30s, and did nothing. In fact I believe one boat load was turned away from country after country. What would be interesting is to know why there was so much anti-semitism in Europe in the 19th century-WWII period. Did they really have a strangle hold over money as is often stated?
Jews have often been mistreated and discriminated against in the past. The 18th and 19th centuries in Western Europe were relatively enlightened in that Jews were finally given full civil rights. Where the Nazis were unique was not in their murderous attitude toward the Jews, but in their determination to eradicate every Jew in their sphere of influence. IIRC, even Albania, with its 12 Jews, was on the lists prepared by Eichmann. As for the Jewish supposed control of international finance, don't be silly. Even in the 19th Century, the amount of money disposed of by governments and corporations under non-Jewish control was much larger than the amount disposed of by the Rothschilds, for example. One of the reasons for a resurgence of anti-Semitism was its wrapping in a new, pseudo-scientific rationale, that of race. The anti-Semites (and other racists) perverted Darwin's doctrine by reading "survival of the fittest" as "survival of those who are most fit in our eyes". Other consequences of this perversion were Eugenics, and advocacy of birth control for the "lower" races (Read the writings of some of the early advocates of birth control. They make for some shocking reading!)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill