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".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013"Weather different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Stocks different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Moar people fleeing their country then predicted; hoax unraveling."
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Global birth rate is down to 2.4 kids per family. That is maintenance levels. In 20 years the worlds population will decline. By the way, there is 5 times the mass of termites on earth than people. People are really no more over populated than many other species.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Global birth rate is down to 2.4 kids per family. That is maintenance levels.
Yeah, you've made that argument before, here are the actual figures.. - [World Population Growth - Our World in Data](https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth/) It's a nice sounding argument to try and distract from actually doing anything about the problem (and it is a big, big problem).
Munchies_Matt wrote:
In 20 years the worlds population will decline.
Yes, and everyone will be free from work, food will be plentiful, people will all get on, la-de-dah.. Meanwhile, I'm going to forecast the price of gold for the next 20 years (something much easier to predict than human behaviour)..
Munchies_Matt wrote:
By the way, there is 5 times the mass of termites on earth than people. People are really no more over populated than many other species.
Termites actually have very little impact on the world on a global scale. Pretty much everything termites do is either neutral or beneficial to their environment. Pretty much everything we do is detrimental. And talking of termites, just bear in mind that when the population of any species gets out of control, there's always a wild counter-effect in nature that brings things back into balance. If you think we're somehow excluded from that, you're very much mistaken.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Global birth rate is down to 2.4 kids per family. That is maintenance levels.
Yeah, you've made that argument before, here are the actual figures.. - [World Population Growth - Our World in Data](https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth/) It's a nice sounding argument to try and distract from actually doing anything about the problem (and it is a big, big problem).
Munchies_Matt wrote:
In 20 years the worlds population will decline.
Yes, and everyone will be free from work, food will be plentiful, people will all get on, la-de-dah.. Meanwhile, I'm going to forecast the price of gold for the next 20 years (something much easier to predict than human behaviour)..
Munchies_Matt wrote:
By the way, there is 5 times the mass of termites on earth than people. People are really no more over populated than many other species.
Termites actually have very little impact on the world on a global scale. Pretty much everything termites do is either neutral or beneficial to their environment. Pretty much everything we do is detrimental. And talking of termites, just bear in mind that when the population of any species gets out of control, there's always a wild counter-effect in nature that brings things back into balance. If you think we're somehow excluded from that, you're very much mistaken.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
you've made that argument before
Because it is a fact: [^] Your link: "200 years ago " Yes, we know what happened in the past, my data shows what is happening today, and the logical affect that will have in 20 years is to start a leveling off of population. The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s: Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds | NASA[^] So in fact the future looks very rosy indeed.
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"Weather different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Stocks different from prediction; hoax unraveling." "Moar people fleeing their country then predicted; hoax unraveling."
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".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
you've made that argument before
Because it is a fact: [^] Your link: "200 years ago " Yes, we know what happened in the past, my data shows what is happening today, and the logical affect that will have in 20 years is to start a leveling off of population. The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s: Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds | NASA[^] So in fact the future looks very rosy indeed.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s:
Sounds lovely.. I guess that's why we're so happy with the increasing population here in Britain? And why people in the world have never been so happy.. "Childish" is not accepting a problem that can clearly be seen.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
The rest of your post is so childish it doesnt merit an answer. Suffice it to say that crop production continues to rise, the developed countries are producing more and more from less and less land. Forest cover is on the increase, and the entire earth is 20% greener than it was in the 80s:
Sounds lovely.. I guess that's why we're so happy with the increasing population here in Britain? And why people in the world have never been so happy.. "Childish" is not accepting a problem that can clearly be seen.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Population increase in Britain is due entirely to immigration. Native birth rate is below maintenance.
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Population increase in Britain is due entirely to immigration. Native birth rate is below maintenance.
Population across the planet is increasing, as shown in the charts in the previous links. Mass migration is a symptom of this problem.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Population across the planet is increasing, as shown in the charts in the previous links. Mass migration is a symptom of this problem.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Yes, it is increasing now, but in 20 years it will level off. Mass migration is a result of war, famine, repression, and a desire to make a better life in the west. Why would the migrants go from a less populated country to one that is more populated if overpopulation was a motivating factor? Clearly it isnt.
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Has Anyone Seen Mike Hunt wrote:
Couldn't careless
That is "care less"; careless has a totally different meaning. But I will excuse you as you are from foreign.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
But I will excuse you as you are from foreign.
:laugh: Think you left something out there old boy. ;)
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Didn't even consider the possibility. Nice work, hook, line and sinker. Hopefully I'm making some others in this place feel clever today. Dammit I feel stupid now. :-\ :thumbsup:
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The joint all your (really bright?) criminals were sent to? In fact, Dr Beeching was a relative. ;) :laugh:
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Britain has some of the oldest housing in Europe. It needs a lot of heating. Without it it gets damp. Quickly. Mold grows, peoples lungs get infected. They die.
I don't think 10 pounds a month make a lot of difference.
It is enough to push people over the edge. Green taxes are killing people, right now, in the UK.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Some of us managed to get away with it. ;)
And you think you got the win? Dirty, dingy blighty or Oz, the smart ones got caught.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Yes, it is increasing now, but in 20 years it will level off. Mass migration is a result of war, famine, repression, and a desire to make a better life in the west. Why would the migrants go from a less populated country to one that is more populated if overpopulation was a motivating factor? Clearly it isnt.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Yes, it is increasing now, but in 20 years it will level off.
Thank goodness you can see the future! I love hearing accurate forecasts on what people will do.. :laugh:
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Mass migration is a result of war, famine, repression, and a desire to make a better life in the west.
Mass migration is a symptom of over-population - not enough resources to go around, so you get "war, famine, repression". It's also a lot easier to move and take what others have worked to achieve, rather than work and achieve for yourself.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why would the migrants go from a less populated country to one that is more populated if overpopulation was a motivating factor?
Because: It's a lot easier to move and take what others have worked to achieve, rather than work and achieve for yourself. :doh: And the statistics that show that the world population has increased dramatically shows (wait for it)... that the population has increased all over the world! (Surprise!) :wtf: So (and here's the big reveal) they're moving from one overpopulated country to another. [Edit] To be clear, each country has a maximum number of humans it can sustainably support. It's not necessarily down to the size of a country, but the resources that country has and the impact on the environment of each person in that country. So you may have two countries, A and B - A is smaller than B, but because of its agriculture, geography, energy resources, water availability, etc, it may be able to support more people than country B. So while country B may have less population than country A, country B may be overpopulated while country A (smaller and with a higher population) may be well within its limits. Every country does have a limit though.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Yes, it is increasing now, but in 20 years it will level off.
Thank goodness you can see the future! I love hearing accurate forecasts on what people will do.. :laugh:
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Mass migration is a result of war, famine, repression, and a desire to make a better life in the west.
Mass migration is a symptom of over-population - not enough resources to go around, so you get "war, famine, repression". It's also a lot easier to move and take what others have worked to achieve, rather than work and achieve for yourself.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why would the migrants go from a less populated country to one that is more populated if overpopulation was a motivating factor?
Because: It's a lot easier to move and take what others have worked to achieve, rather than work and achieve for yourself. :doh: And the statistics that show that the world population has increased dramatically shows (wait for it)... that the population has increased all over the world! (Surprise!) :wtf: So (and here's the big reveal) they're moving from one overpopulated country to another. [Edit] To be clear, each country has a maximum number of humans it can sustainably support. It's not necessarily down to the size of a country, but the resources that country has and the impact on the environment of each person in that country. So you may have two countries, A and B - A is smaller than B, but because of its agriculture, geography, energy resources, water availability, etc, it may be able to support more people than country B. So while country B may have less population than country A, country B may be overpopulated while country A (smaller and with a higher population) may be well within its limits. Every country does have a limit though.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
Thank goodness you can see the future
Why are you so childish? Look at the global birth rate: GLOBAL BIRTH RATE [^] Actually LOOK at it. Open the link and LOOK at what it is. What the trend has been. It is 2.4 children per family. That is at maintenance levels. When these kids become parents the result will be a lower population. Can you not understand the diagram? Can you not understand that 2.4 is the maintenance level globally? Can you not understand what effect a reduced birth rate has on population? But no, Brent has his own beliefs and will ignore all facts and logic, to defend them, including snide patronism. You really are a child you know. Grow up.
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Population across the planet is increasing, as shown in the charts in the previous links. Mass migration is a symptom of this problem.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
Mass migration is a symptom of this problem.
Nope, IMHO mass migration is mostly a symptom of war. People don't usually leave all behind just for fun, at least not in such a scale.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
Thank goodness you can see the future
Why are you so childish? Look at the global birth rate: GLOBAL BIRTH RATE [^] Actually LOOK at it. Open the link and LOOK at what it is. What the trend has been. It is 2.4 children per family. That is at maintenance levels. When these kids become parents the result will be a lower population. Can you not understand the diagram? Can you not understand that 2.4 is the maintenance level globally? Can you not understand what effect a reduced birth rate has on population? But no, Brent has his own beliefs and will ignore all facts and logic, to defend them, including snide patronism. You really are a child you know. Grow up.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why are you so childish?
Why are you so childish? :laugh: But seriously, you're telling me that you can say with 100% accuracy what will happen in 5 or 10 years time? The only fact on the table is that our population is approximately 8 times more now than it was 100 years ago and it's still increasing. Other than that, you're in the realm of guesswork.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
But no, Brent has his own beliefs and will ignore all facts and logic, to defend them, including snide patronism. You really are a child you know. Grow up.
For facts, get outside and take a look yourself at what's going on. The real world is very different to what's on the internet.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
