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  • D den2k88

    So it's officially The Last Boy Scout[^].

    * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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    ZurdoDev
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    :thumbsup: :laugh:

    There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Nathan Minier wrote:

      I'm not sure that at this point anyone really cares.

      Scouts is a huge organization in America, so I would assume a lot of people care, one way or the other. What they should have done was teamed up with the existing Girl Scouts and just made a Scouting organization. Now, they are in competition with the girl scouts and the boy scouts popcorn is not as good as the girl scouts cookies.

      There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Nathan Minier
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      I daresay the word "huge" is a pretty serious overstatement, but that wasn't my point. With all the other social engineering that's gone into that organization, this isn't even really a blip on the radar.

      "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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      • J jeron1

        Yeah, that popcorn, that freakishly overpriced popcorn.

        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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        Nathan Minier
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        And freakishly not good.

        "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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        • M Munchies_Matt

          And both established by repressed homosexuals, Ernst Rhom and Baden-Powell.

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          NoNotThatBob
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          So? Many Army guys are - even SAS and Commandos.

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            So? Many Army guys are - even SAS and Commandos.

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Just drawing a tenuous parallel. :) I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all, pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine.

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              Just drawing a tenuous parallel. :) I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all, pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine.

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              NoNotThatBob
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              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all

              How would anyone know?

              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine

              What, drinking, whoring, etc. with the lads? Well, even Alan Bennett had heterosexual relationships. :-D

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                So? Many Army guys are - even SAS and Commandos.

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                There is a wonderful tongue-in-cheek article by Arthur C. Clarke (who was also homosexual) on the subject of why homosexuals should not be allowed in the military. After surveying the careers of various generals - from Julius Ceasar through Richard the Lionheart to Chakka Zulu, he came to the conclusion that they should not be allowed in the army because they are too bloodthirsty . :laugh:

                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                • D den2k88

                  In Italy, none of these. Just a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.

                  * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                  den2k88 wrote:

                  a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.

                  The girls pray that they won't get pregnant? :D

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                    den2k88 wrote:

                    a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.

                    The girls pray that they won't get pregnant? :D

                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                    den2k88
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                    Mostly :laugh:

                    * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      a good education

                      "Good" is relative in this case. :laugh:

                      There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      WiganLatics
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                      Perhaps full or lengthy would be better words to choose...

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                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                        There is a wonderful tongue-in-cheek article by Arthur C. Clarke (who was also homosexual) on the subject of why homosexuals should not be allowed in the military. After surveying the careers of various generals - from Julius Ceasar through Richard the Lionheart to Chakka Zulu, he came to the conclusion that they should not be allowed in the army because they are too bloodthirsty . :laugh:

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        NoNotThatBob
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                        :laugh:

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                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all

                          How would anyone know?

                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine

                          What, drinking, whoring, etc. with the lads? Well, even Alan Bennett had heterosexual relationships. :-D

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

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                          • M Munchies_Matt

                            If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

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                            NoNotThatBob
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                            Munchies_Matt wrote:

                            If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

                            Yesterday's news? Only Wikipedea but:

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                            The British military actively recruits gay men and lesbians, all three services have deployed recruiting teams to gay pride events, and punishes any instance of intolerance or bullying. The Royal Navy advertises for recruits in gay magazines and has allowed gay sailors to hold civil partnership ceremonies on board ships and, since 2006, to march in full naval uniform at a gay pride marches. British Army and Royal Air Force personnel could march but had to wear civilian clothes until 2008, now all military personnel are permitted to attend Gay Pride marches in uniform

                            And so, Monty Python's "Swanning about by numbers" became a reality. Life imitating art. :-D

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                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

                              Yesterday's news? Only Wikipedea but:

                              Quote:

                              The British military actively recruits gay men and lesbians, all three services have deployed recruiting teams to gay pride events, and punishes any instance of intolerance or bullying. The Royal Navy advertises for recruits in gay magazines and has allowed gay sailors to hold civil partnership ceremonies on board ships and, since 2006, to march in full naval uniform at a gay pride marches. British Army and Royal Air Force personnel could march but had to wear civilian clothes until 2008, now all military personnel are permitted to attend Gay Pride marches in uniform

                              And so, Monty Python's "Swanning about by numbers" became a reality. Life imitating art. :-D

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                              OK, they are recruiting today, but the used to exclude them in the past. I think gay men in the army is a good idea. It can become their whole life. The attachments, and commitment to their fellow soldiers would be 100%.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                OK, they are recruiting today, but the used to exclude them in the past. I think gay men in the army is a good idea. It can become their whole life. The attachments, and commitment to their fellow soldiers would be 100%.

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                                NoNotThatBob
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                                They would exclude those who admitted (or claimed - if you were avoiding National Service, and could get a confirmatory diagnosis from a psychiatrist) to being homosexual. [Psychiatric assessment: 5 sessions at Five Guineas a session - 1959 going rate. :-D ]

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                                  They would exclude those who admitted (or claimed - if you were avoiding National Service, and could get a confirmatory diagnosis from a psychiatrist) to being homosexual. [Psychiatric assessment: 5 sessions at Five Guineas a session - 1959 going rate. :-D ]

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  That was way back, how about recently? It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers. This is new. Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.

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                                  • M Munchies_Matt

                                    That was way back, how about recently? It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers. This is new. Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.

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                                    NoNotThatBob
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                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    That was way back

                                    In response to:

                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    they used to exclude them in the past.

                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers

                                    Recruitment Campaign?

                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.

                                    The editor's decision is final. :-D When homosexuality was illegal, there were plenty of Courts Martial cases punishing homosexual activity. Whether homosexuals were Court Marshalled depended very much on the attitude of the CO towards homosexuality. When it became legal, but unacceptable to the services, homosexual activity was 'punished' by discharge. Again, at the discression of the CO. Now it is both legal and acceptable to the services, there is no deterrent to homosexuals joining the Armed Forces. Given that homosexuals joined the Armed Forces when they would be severely punished if discovered (the Courts Martial records attest to this), it would seem more likely that the Forces would now have proportionately more homosexuals than before.

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                                    • N NoNotThatBob

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      That was way back

                                      In response to:

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      they used to exclude them in the past.

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers

                                      Recruitment Campaign?

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.

                                      The editor's decision is final. :-D When homosexuality was illegal, there were plenty of Courts Martial cases punishing homosexual activity. Whether homosexuals were Court Marshalled depended very much on the attitude of the CO towards homosexuality. When it became legal, but unacceptable to the services, homosexual activity was 'punished' by discharge. Again, at the discression of the CO. Now it is both legal and acceptable to the services, there is no deterrent to homosexuals joining the Armed Forces. Given that homosexuals joined the Armed Forces when they would be severely punished if discovered (the Courts Martial records attest to this), it would seem more likely that the Forces would now have proportionately more homosexuals than before.

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      I did hear a story of some paratroopers raping a rapist, to teach him a lesson. But that doesnt count really.

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                                      • Z ZurdoDev

                                        Nathan Minier wrote:

                                        I'm not sure that at this point anyone really cares.

                                        Scouts is a huge organization in America, so I would assume a lot of people care, one way or the other. What they should have done was teamed up with the existing Girl Scouts and just made a Scouting organization. Now, they are in competition with the girl scouts and the boy scouts popcorn is not as good as the girl scouts cookies.

                                        There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                        jschell
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                                        SerenityNowDev wrote:

                                        Scouts is a huge organization in America, so I would assume a lot of people care, one way or the other.

                                        With a membership that is in an ongoing decline. It is likely that is why they really care.

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