No more Boy Scouts, now just Scouts
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Just drawing a tenuous parallel. :) I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all, pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all
How would anyone know?
Munchies_Matt wrote:
pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine
What, drinking, whoring, etc. with the lads? Well, even Alan Bennett had heterosexual relationships. :-D
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So? Many Army guys are - even SAS and Commandos.
There is a wonderful tongue-in-cheek article by Arthur C. Clarke (who was also homosexual) on the subject of why homosexuals should not be allowed in the military. After surveying the careers of various generals - from Julius Ceasar through Richard the Lionheart to Chakka Zulu, he came to the conclusion that they should not be allowed in the army because they are too bloodthirsty . :laugh:
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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In Italy, none of these. Just a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
den2k88 wrote:
a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.
The girls pray that they won't get pregnant? :D
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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den2k88 wrote:
a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.
The girls pray that they won't get pregnant? :D
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Mostly :laugh:
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
a good education
"Good" is relative in this case. :laugh:
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Perhaps full or lengthy would be better words to choose...
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There is a wonderful tongue-in-cheek article by Arthur C. Clarke (who was also homosexual) on the subject of why homosexuals should not be allowed in the military. After surveying the careers of various generals - from Julius Ceasar through Richard the Lionheart to Chakka Zulu, he came to the conclusion that they should not be allowed in the army because they are too bloodthirsty . :laugh:
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
:laugh:
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all
How would anyone know?
Munchies_Matt wrote:
pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine
What, drinking, whoring, etc. with the lads? Well, even Alan Bennett had heterosexual relationships. :-D
If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.
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If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.
Yesterday's news? Only Wikipedea but:
Quote:
The British military actively recruits gay men and lesbians, all three services have deployed recruiting teams to gay pride events, and punishes any instance of intolerance or bullying. The Royal Navy advertises for recruits in gay magazines and has allowed gay sailors to hold civil partnership ceremonies on board ships and, since 2006, to march in full naval uniform at a gay pride marches. British Army and Royal Air Force personnel could march but had to wear civilian clothes until 2008, now all military personnel are permitted to attend Gay Pride marches in uniform
And so, Monty Python's "Swanning about by numbers" became a reality. Life imitating art. :-D
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.
Yesterday's news? Only Wikipedea but:
Quote:
The British military actively recruits gay men and lesbians, all three services have deployed recruiting teams to gay pride events, and punishes any instance of intolerance or bullying. The Royal Navy advertises for recruits in gay magazines and has allowed gay sailors to hold civil partnership ceremonies on board ships and, since 2006, to march in full naval uniform at a gay pride marches. British Army and Royal Air Force personnel could march but had to wear civilian clothes until 2008, now all military personnel are permitted to attend Gay Pride marches in uniform
And so, Monty Python's "Swanning about by numbers" became a reality. Life imitating art. :-D
OK, they are recruiting today, but the used to exclude them in the past. I think gay men in the army is a good idea. It can become their whole life. The attachments, and commitment to their fellow soldiers would be 100%.
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OK, they are recruiting today, but the used to exclude them in the past. I think gay men in the army is a good idea. It can become their whole life. The attachments, and commitment to their fellow soldiers would be 100%.
They would exclude those who admitted (or claimed - if you were avoiding National Service, and could get a confirmatory diagnosis from a psychiatrist) to being homosexual. [Psychiatric assessment: 5 sessions at Five Guineas a session - 1959 going rate. :-D ]
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They would exclude those who admitted (or claimed - if you were avoiding National Service, and could get a confirmatory diagnosis from a psychiatrist) to being homosexual. [Psychiatric assessment: 5 sessions at Five Guineas a session - 1959 going rate. :-D ]
That was way back, how about recently? It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers. This is new. Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.
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That was way back, how about recently? It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers. This is new. Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
That was way back
In response to:
Munchies_Matt wrote:
they used to exclude them in the past.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers
Recruitment Campaign?
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.
The editor's decision is final. :-D When homosexuality was illegal, there were plenty of Courts Martial cases punishing homosexual activity. Whether homosexuals were Court Marshalled depended very much on the attitude of the CO towards homosexuality. When it became legal, but unacceptable to the services, homosexual activity was 'punished' by discharge. Again, at the discression of the CO. Now it is both legal and acceptable to the services, there is no deterrent to homosexuals joining the Armed Forces. Given that homosexuals joined the Armed Forces when they would be severely punished if discovered (the Courts Martial records attest to this), it would seem more likely that the Forces would now have proportionately more homosexuals than before.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
That was way back
In response to:
Munchies_Matt wrote:
they used to exclude them in the past.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
It strikes me that sordid tales of sex, now women are in the armed forces, are rife in the papers
Recruitment Campaign?
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Never seen tales of homosexual activity in the forces.
The editor's decision is final. :-D When homosexuality was illegal, there were plenty of Courts Martial cases punishing homosexual activity. Whether homosexuals were Court Marshalled depended very much on the attitude of the CO towards homosexuality. When it became legal, but unacceptable to the services, homosexual activity was 'punished' by discharge. Again, at the discression of the CO. Now it is both legal and acceptable to the services, there is no deterrent to homosexuals joining the Armed Forces. Given that homosexuals joined the Armed Forces when they would be severely punished if discovered (the Courts Martial records attest to this), it would seem more likely that the Forces would now have proportionately more homosexuals than before.
I did hear a story of some paratroopers raping a rapist, to teach him a lesson. But that doesnt count really.
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Nathan Minier wrote:
I'm not sure that at this point anyone really cares.
Scouts is a huge organization in America, so I would assume a lot of people care, one way or the other. What they should have done was teamed up with the existing Girl Scouts and just made a Scouting organization. Now, they are in competition with the girl scouts and the boy scouts popcorn is not as good as the girl scouts cookies.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.