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  • M Munchies_Matt

    A quasi militaristic organisation reminiscent of the Brown Shirts. Anyway, what about all the transgenders these days? The BSA will have to rename itself to the BGTSA. :)

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    (Back when I was Boy Scout) Scouting has never been "militaristic. Scouts are taught (and expected to learn) practical survival techniques, and they had a rifle, archery, and small game hunting merit badges strictly for the purposes of survival in the wild. We were never indoctrinated in marching, close order drill, or the proper technique for advancing on, enveloping, defeating, or defending a fortified or non-fortified position. In other words, it was hardly "militaristic".

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      (Back when I was Boy Scout) Scouting has never been "militaristic. Scouts are taught (and expected to learn) practical survival techniques, and they had a rifle, archery, and small game hunting merit badges strictly for the purposes of survival in the wild. We were never indoctrinated in marching, close order drill, or the proper technique for advancing on, enveloping, defeating, or defending a fortified or non-fortified position. In other words, it was hardly "militaristic".

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Munchies_Matt
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      Hence the use of the term 'quasi' John.

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      • N Nathan Minier

        I'm not sure that at this point anyone really cares. I just wish they'd stop trying to sell me popcorn.

        "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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        jeron1
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        Yeah, that popcorn, that freakishly overpriced popcorn.

        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          (Back when I was Boy Scout) Scouting has never been "militaristic. Scouts are taught (and expected to learn) practical survival techniques, and they had a rifle, archery, and small game hunting merit badges strictly for the purposes of survival in the wild. We were never indoctrinated in marching, close order drill, or the proper technique for advancing on, enveloping, defeating, or defending a fortified or non-fortified position. In other words, it was hardly "militaristic".

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          In Italy, none of these. Just a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.

          * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            The BSA Expands Programs to Welcome Girls from Cub Scouts to Highest Rank of Eagle Scout[^] :doh:

            There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            So it's officially The Last Boy Scout[^].

            * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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            • D den2k88

              So it's officially The Last Boy Scout[^].

              * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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              ZurdoDev
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              :thumbsup: :laugh:

              There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                Nathan Minier wrote:

                I'm not sure that at this point anyone really cares.

                Scouts is a huge organization in America, so I would assume a lot of people care, one way or the other. What they should have done was teamed up with the existing Girl Scouts and just made a Scouting organization. Now, they are in competition with the girl scouts and the boy scouts popcorn is not as good as the girl scouts cookies.

                There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Nathan Minier
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                I daresay the word "huge" is a pretty serious overstatement, but that wasn't my point. With all the other social engineering that's gone into that organization, this isn't even really a blip on the radar.

                "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                • J jeron1

                  Yeah, that popcorn, that freakishly overpriced popcorn.

                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                  Nathan Minier
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                  And freakishly not good.

                  "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                  • M Munchies_Matt

                    And both established by repressed homosexuals, Ernst Rhom and Baden-Powell.

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                    So? Many Army guys are - even SAS and Commandos.

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                      So? Many Army guys are - even SAS and Commandos.

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                      Just drawing a tenuous parallel. :) I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all, pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine.

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        Just drawing a tenuous parallel. :) I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all, pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine.

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all

                        How would anyone know?

                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine

                        What, drinking, whoring, etc. with the lads? Well, even Alan Bennett had heterosexual relationships. :-D

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                        • N NoNotThatBob

                          So? Many Army guys are - even SAS and Commandos.

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                          There is a wonderful tongue-in-cheek article by Arthur C. Clarke (who was also homosexual) on the subject of why homosexuals should not be allowed in the military. After surveying the careers of various generals - from Julius Ceasar through Richard the Lionheart to Chakka Zulu, he came to the conclusion that they should not be allowed in the army because they are too bloodthirsty . :laugh:

                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          • D den2k88

                            In Italy, none of these. Just a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.

                            * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            den2k88 wrote:

                            a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.

                            The girls pray that they won't get pregnant? :D

                            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                              den2k88 wrote:

                              a lot of prayers with the occasional camping - useful for some of the best/worst orgies ever saw.

                              The girls pray that they won't get pregnant? :D

                              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                              den2k88
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                              Mostly :laugh:

                              * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                a good education

                                "Good" is relative in this case. :laugh:

                                There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                WiganLatics
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                                Perhaps full or lengthy would be better words to choose...

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                                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                  There is a wonderful tongue-in-cheek article by Arthur C. Clarke (who was also homosexual) on the subject of why homosexuals should not be allowed in the military. After surveying the careers of various generals - from Julius Ceasar through Richard the Lionheart to Chakka Zulu, he came to the conclusion that they should not be allowed in the army because they are too bloodthirsty . :laugh:

                                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                  NoNotThatBob
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                                  :laugh:

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                                  • N NoNotThatBob

                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    I doubt many in the army are though, if any at all

                                    How would anyone know?

                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    pretty hard to live the lifestyle I would imagine

                                    What, drinking, whoring, etc. with the lads? Well, even Alan Bennett had heterosexual relationships. :-D

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

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                                      NoNotThatBob
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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

                                      Yesterday's news? Only Wikipedea but:

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                                      The British military actively recruits gay men and lesbians, all three services have deployed recruiting teams to gay pride events, and punishes any instance of intolerance or bullying. The Royal Navy advertises for recruits in gay magazines and has allowed gay sailors to hold civil partnership ceremonies on board ships and, since 2006, to march in full naval uniform at a gay pride marches. British Army and Royal Air Force personnel could march but had to wear civilian clothes until 2008, now all military personnel are permitted to attend Gay Pride marches in uniform

                                      And so, Monty Python's "Swanning about by numbers" became a reality. Life imitating art. :-D

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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        If they got caught out it would hit the news, I am sure, and you dont hear about it at all.

                                        Yesterday's news? Only Wikipedea but:

                                        Quote:

                                        The British military actively recruits gay men and lesbians, all three services have deployed recruiting teams to gay pride events, and punishes any instance of intolerance or bullying. The Royal Navy advertises for recruits in gay magazines and has allowed gay sailors to hold civil partnership ceremonies on board ships and, since 2006, to march in full naval uniform at a gay pride marches. British Army and Royal Air Force personnel could march but had to wear civilian clothes until 2008, now all military personnel are permitted to attend Gay Pride marches in uniform

                                        And so, Monty Python's "Swanning about by numbers" became a reality. Life imitating art. :-D

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                                        Munchies_Matt
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                                        OK, they are recruiting today, but the used to exclude them in the past. I think gay men in the army is a good idea. It can become their whole life. The attachments, and commitment to their fellow soldiers would be 100%.

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                                        • M Munchies_Matt

                                          OK, they are recruiting today, but the used to exclude them in the past. I think gay men in the army is a good idea. It can become their whole life. The attachments, and commitment to their fellow soldiers would be 100%.

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                                          NoNotThatBob
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                                          They would exclude those who admitted (or claimed - if you were avoiding National Service, and could get a confirmatory diagnosis from a psychiatrist) to being homosexual. [Psychiatric assessment: 5 sessions at Five Guineas a session - 1959 going rate. :-D ]

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