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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    The spec isn't clear! Send it back! :wtf: As this is, in essence, a compression algorithm, at line 8->9 (according to the OEIS) I would do:

    1113213211

    11 132132 11 <== three subsequences

    21 2132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

    Which is shorter than their naive result of:

    1113213211

    111 3 2 1 3 2 11 <== seven subsequences

    31 13 12 11 13 12 21 <== seven outputs, fourteen digits

    A 40% saving. The complexity of the algorithm increases due to seeking how to split the input into the fewest subsequences of some repetition length (1 in the naive implementation).

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    When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

    1113213211

    11 132132 11 <== 13?

    21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

    What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

    1113213211

    111 32132 11

    31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

    There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

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      340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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      Dave Kreskowiak
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      Nope, not even close.

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

        1113213211

        11 132132 11 <== 13?

        21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

        What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

        1113213211

        111 32132 11

        31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

        There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

        System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
        Dave Kreskowiak

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

        What happened to the 13?

        There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

        Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

        How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

        Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

        (1,1)
        (2,1)
        ...
        (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
        ...

        The question is about only the number of digits.

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          340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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          What base? The length is 10 -- in some base I haven't determined yet.

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          • D Dave Kreskowiak

            It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

            1
            11
            21
            1211
            111221
            312211

            The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

            System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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            Kenneth Haugland
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            So I stored booleans in a file:

            string Morris(int S, int N)
            {
            string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
            using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
            {
            writer.Write(S > 2);
            writer.Write(S == 2);
            }

                    for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                    {
                        Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
            
                        using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                        {
                            int count = 1;
                            bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                            bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
            
                            bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
            
                            using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                            {
                                while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                {
                                    nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                    nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
            
                                    if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                    {
                                        count++;
                                    }
                                    else
                                    {
                                        writer.Write(count > 2);
                                        writer.Write(count == 2);
                                        writer.Write(currMSB);
                                        writer.Write(currLSB);
            
                                        currMSB = nextMSB;
                                        currLSB = nextLSB;
                                        count = 1;
                                    }
            
                                }
                                writer.Write(count > 2);
                                writer.Write(count == 2);
                                writer.Write(currMSB);
                                writer.Write(currLSB);
                            }
                        }
            
                        File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                        System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                        System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                    }
            
            
                    StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                    using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
            
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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

              What happened to the 13?

              There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

              Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

              How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

              Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

              (1,1)
              (2,1)
              ...
              (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
              ...

              The question is about only the number of digits.

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              Ah, OK. I missed that. Hmmm. In my implementation, I wrote up a reader/writer that takes care of the "on the fly". This would make an interesting, and challenging, implementation to write. I'll have to look into trying this next weekend. My current implementation writes all the data but there is an option to convert the data to a human-readable format. Not that you'd want to see thousands of pages of 1's, 2's, and 3's, but it did come in handy for analysis when experimenting with implementations.

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              • K Kenneth Haugland

                So I stored booleans in a file:

                string Morris(int S, int N)
                {
                string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
                using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                {
                writer.Write(S > 2);
                writer.Write(S == 2);
                }

                        for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                        {
                            Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
                
                            using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                            {
                                int count = 1;
                                bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                
                                bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                
                                using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                {
                                    while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                    {
                                        nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                        nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                
                                        if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                        {
                                            count++;
                                        }
                                        else
                                        {
                                            writer.Write(count > 2);
                                            writer.Write(count == 2);
                                            writer.Write(currMSB);
                                            writer.Write(currLSB);
                
                                            currMSB = nextMSB;
                                            currLSB = nextLSB;
                                            count = 1;
                                        }
                
                                    }
                                    writer.Write(count > 2);
                                    writer.Write(count == 2);
                                    writer.Write(currMSB);
                                    writer.Write(currLSB);
                                }
                            }
                
                            File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                            System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                            System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                        }
                
                
                        StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                        using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
                
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                Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

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                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                  It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                  1
                  11
                  21
                  1211
                  111221
                  312211

                  The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                  System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                  My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

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                    Kenneth Haugland
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                    I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                      I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                      I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                        My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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                        I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

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                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                          I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                          #66

                          level 1 size = 1
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                          level 100 size = 511247092564
                          finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                          elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                          • D Dave Kreskowiak

                            It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                            1
                            11
                            21
                            1211
                            111221
                            312211

                            The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                            System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                            Dave Kreskowiak

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                            #67

                            :elephant: OK, I'll see how far I get doing it "my way" -- but I'll address the more general problem, allowing the starting input to be more than one symbol and not limited to the symbols 1, 2, and 3. Also, allowing the caller to specify the maximum subsequence length -- that'll be the hard part. I think the only alcohol in the place is one shot of tequila; it will have to be enough. Sunday morning update: By midnight I had the basic functionality (subsequence lengths 0 and 1) working and tested -- but using a List<T> which means that there are allocation issues. This morning's immediate goal -- implement a SegmentedList<T> class. Sunday afternoon update: The SegmentedList<T> is working well, and it allows for multiple threads for improved speed.

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                            • D Dave Kreskowiak

                              I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                              They definitely store the booleans as bytes. I ran this:

                              string MorrisBitVector32(int S, int N)
                              {
                              //Need the mask for accessing the individual bits
                              int[] _masks = new int[32];
                              {
                              _masks[0] = BitVector32.CreateMask();
                              }
                              for (int i = 1; i < 32; i++)
                              {
                              _masks[i] = BitVector32.CreateMask(_masks[i - 1]);
                              }

                                      //Hopefully setes the path to the project folder
                                      string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\\..\\..\\");
                              
                              
                                      using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                      {
                                          BitVector32 v = new BitVector32();
                                          // Standard 3 = 11, 2=10,1=01 and 
                                          // 00 is not more numbers in this BitVector32
                                          v\[\_masks\[0\]\] = S >= 2;
                                          v\[\_masks\[1\]\] = S != 2;
                                          //Writes a 32bit integer to the file
                                          writer.Write(v.Data);
                                      }
                              
                              
                                      for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                                      {
                                          Debug.WriteLine(i + 1);
                              
                                          using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                                          {
                                              // Initiates variables for each N run
                                              bool currMSB, currLSB, firstRun;
                                              firstRun = true;
                                              currMSB = false;
                                              currLSB = false;
                                              int count = 0;
                                              int k = 0;
                                              BitVector32 outputBits = new BitVector32();
                              
                                              using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                              {
                              
                                                  while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                                  {
                                                      BitVector32 inputBits = new BitVector32(reader.ReadInt32());
                                                      if (firstRun)
                                                      {
                                                          count = 1;
                                                          currMSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[0\]\];
                                                          currLSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[1\]\];                                
                                                      }
                              
                              
                                                      bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                                                      for (int j = (firstRun ? 2 : 0); j < 32; j += 2)
                                                      {
                                                          nextMSB = inputBits\[\_ma
                              
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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                Nope, not even close.

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                                After a bit more fiddling:

                                Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                                Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                                Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                                51st length : 1,166,642
                                52nd length : 1,521,070
                                53rd length : 1,983,164
                                54th length : 2,585,639
                                55th length : 3,371,142
                                56th length : 4,395,278
                                57th length : 5,730,540
                                58th length : 7,471,449
                                59th length : 9,741,236
                                60th length : 12,700,573
                                61st length : 16,558,941
                                62nd length : 21,589,461
                                63rd length : 28,148,228
                                64th length : 36,699,513
                                65th length : 47,848,635
                                66th length : 62,384,802
                                67th length : 81,336,981
                                68th length : 106,046,733
                                69th length : 138,263,181
                                70th length : 180,266,818
                                71st length : 235,030,941
                                72nd length : 306,432,122
                                73rd length : 399,524,610
                                74th length : 520,898,113
                                75th length : 679,144,257
                                76th length : 885,464,758
                                77th length : 1,154,464,356
                                78th length : 1,505,184,637
                                79th length : 1,962,451,918
                                80th length : 2,558,634,627
                                81st length : 3,335,934,550
                                82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                                83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                                84th length : 7,393,418,089
                                85th length : 9,639,500,137
                                86th length : 12,567,930,256
                                87th length : 16,386,002,249
                                88th length : 21,363,984,700
                                89th length : 27,854,252,387
                                90th length : 36,316,229,718
                                91st length : 47,348,911,849
                                92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                                93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                                94th length : 104,939,199,534
                                95th length : 136,819,183,789
                                96th length : 178,384,141,824
                                97th length : 232,576,318,416
                                98th length : 303,231,797,036
                                99th length : 395,352,043,407
                                100th length : 515,457,942,582

                                Regards , R

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                                  It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                  1
                                  11
                                  21
                                  1211
                                  111221
                                  312211

                                  The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

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                                  Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                    After a bit more fiddling:

                                    Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                                    Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                                    Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                                    51st length : 1,166,642
                                    52nd length : 1,521,070
                                    53rd length : 1,983,164
                                    54th length : 2,585,639
                                    55th length : 3,371,142
                                    56th length : 4,395,278
                                    57th length : 5,730,540
                                    58th length : 7,471,449
                                    59th length : 9,741,236
                                    60th length : 12,700,573
                                    61st length : 16,558,941
                                    62nd length : 21,589,461
                                    63rd length : 28,148,228
                                    64th length : 36,699,513
                                    65th length : 47,848,635
                                    66th length : 62,384,802
                                    67th length : 81,336,981
                                    68th length : 106,046,733
                                    69th length : 138,263,181
                                    70th length : 180,266,818
                                    71st length : 235,030,941
                                    72nd length : 306,432,122
                                    73rd length : 399,524,610
                                    74th length : 520,898,113
                                    75th length : 679,144,257
                                    76th length : 885,464,758
                                    77th length : 1,154,464,356
                                    78th length : 1,505,184,637
                                    79th length : 1,962,451,918
                                    80th length : 2,558,634,627
                                    81st length : 3,335,934,550
                                    82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                                    83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                                    84th length : 7,393,418,089
                                    85th length : 9,639,500,137
                                    86th length : 12,567,930,256
                                    87th length : 16,386,002,249
                                    88th length : 21,363,984,700
                                    89th length : 27,854,252,387
                                    90th length : 36,316,229,718
                                    91st length : 47,348,911,849
                                    92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                                    93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                                    94th length : 104,939,199,534
                                    95th length : 136,819,183,789
                                    96th length : 178,384,141,824
                                    97th length : 232,576,318,416
                                    98th length : 303,231,797,036
                                    99th length : 395,352,043,407
                                    100th length : 515,457,942,582

                                    Regards , R

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                                    Wrong again!

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                                      Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                      I didn't follow that.

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                                        It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                        1
                                        11
                                        21
                                        1211
                                        111221
                                        312211

                                        The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                                        System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                        The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

                                        System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                          level 1 size = 1
                                          level 2 size = 2
                                          level 3 size = 2
                                          level 4 size = 4
                                          level 5 size = 6
                                          level 6 size = 6
                                          level 7 size = 8
                                          level 8 size = 10
                                          level 9 size = 14
                                          level 10 size = 20
                                          level 11 size = 26
                                          level 12 size = 34
                                          level 13 size = 46
                                          level 14 size = 62
                                          level 15 size = 78
                                          level 16 size = 102
                                          level 17 size = 134
                                          level 18 size = 176
                                          level 19 size = 226
                                          level 20 size = 302
                                          level 21 size = 408
                                          level 22 size = 528
                                          level 23 size = 678
                                          level 24 size = 904
                                          level 25 size = 1182
                                          level 26 size = 1540
                                          level 27 size = 2012
                                          level 28 size = 2606
                                          level 29 size = 3410
                                          level 30 size = 4462
                                          level 31 size = 5808
                                          level 32 size = 7586
                                          level 33 size = 9898
                                          level 34 size = 12884
                                          level 35 size = 16774
                                          level 36 size = 21890
                                          level 37 size = 28528
                                          level 38 size = 37158
                                          level 39 size = 48410
                                          level 40 size = 63138
                                          level 41 size = 82350
                                          level 42 size = 107312
                                          level 43 size = 139984
                                          level 44 size = 182376
                                          level 45 size = 237746
                                          level 46 size = 310036
                                          level 47 size = 403966
                                          level 48 size = 526646
                                          level 49 size = 686646
                                          level 50 size = 894810
                                          level 51 size = 1166642
                                          level 52 size = 1520986
                                          level 53 size = 1982710
                                          level 54 size = 2584304
                                          level 55 size = 3369156
                                          level 56 size = 4391702
                                          level 57 size = 5724486
                                          level 58 size = 7462860
                                          level 59 size = 9727930
                                          level 60 size = 12680852
                                          level 61 size = 16530884
                                          level 62 size = 21549544
                                          level 63 size = 28091184
                                          level 64 size = 36619162
                                          level 65 size = 47736936
                                          level 66 size = 62226614
                                          level 67 size = 81117366
                                          level 68 size = 105745224
                                          level 69 size = 137842560
                                          level 70 size = 179691598
                                          level 71 size = 234241786
                                          level 72 size = 305351794
                                          level 73 size = 398049970
                                          level 74 size = 518891358
                                          level 75 size = 676414798
                                          level 76 size = 881752750
                                          level 77 size = 1149440192
                                          level 78 size = 1498380104
                                          level 79 size = 1953245418
                                          level 80 size = 2546222700
                                          level 81 size = 3319186080
                                          level 82 size = 4326816254
                                          level 83 size = 5640348764
                                          level 84 size = 7352630884
                                          level 85 size = 9584715106
                                          level 86 size = 12494412020
                                          level 87 size = 16287462624
                                          level 88 size = 21231903676
                                          level 89 size = 27677468012
                                          level 90 size = 36079732206
                                          level 91 size = 47032657188
                                          level 92 size = 61310766500
                                          level 93 size = 79923316046
                                          level 94 size = 104186199146
                                          level 95 size = 135814773100
                                          level 96 size = 177045063068
                                          level 97 size = 230791944956
                                          level 98 size = 300854953626
                                          level 99 size = 392187941864
                                          level 100 size = 511247092564
                                          finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                                          elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                                          Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

                                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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