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  • U User 13520686

    340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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    Dave Kreskowiak
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    Nope, not even close.

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    • D Dave Kreskowiak

      When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

      1113213211

      11 132132 11 <== 13?

      21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

      What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

      1113213211

      111 32132 11

      31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

      There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

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      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

      What happened to the 13?

      There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

      How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

      Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

      (1,1)
      (2,1)
      ...
      (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
      ...

      The question is about only the number of digits.

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        340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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        What base? The length is 10 -- in some base I haven't determined yet.

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        • D Dave Kreskowiak

          It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

          1
          11
          21
          1211
          111221
          312211

          The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
          Dave Kreskowiak

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          Kenneth Haugland
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          So I stored booleans in a file:

          string Morris(int S, int N)
          {
          string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
          using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
          {
          writer.Write(S > 2);
          writer.Write(S == 2);
          }

                  for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                  {
                      Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
          
                      using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                      {
                          int count = 1;
                          bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                          bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
          
                          bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
          
                          using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                          {
                              while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                              {
                                  nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                  nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
          
                                  if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                  {
                                      count++;
                                  }
                                  else
                                  {
                                      writer.Write(count > 2);
                                      writer.Write(count == 2);
                                      writer.Write(currMSB);
                                      writer.Write(currLSB);
          
                                      currMSB = nextMSB;
                                      currLSB = nextLSB;
                                      count = 1;
                                  }
          
                              }
                              writer.Write(count > 2);
                              writer.Write(count == 2);
                              writer.Write(currMSB);
                              writer.Write(currLSB);
                          }
                      }
          
                      File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                      System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                      System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                  }
          
          
                  StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                  using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
          
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            Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

            What happened to the 13?

            There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

            Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

            How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

            Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

            (1,1)
            (2,1)
            ...
            (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
            ...

            The question is about only the number of digits.

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            Ah, OK. I missed that. Hmmm. In my implementation, I wrote up a reader/writer that takes care of the "on the fly". This would make an interesting, and challenging, implementation to write. I'll have to look into trying this next weekend. My current implementation writes all the data but there is an option to convert the data to a human-readable format. Not that you'd want to see thousands of pages of 1's, 2's, and 3's, but it did come in handy for analysis when experimenting with implementations.

            System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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            • K Kenneth Haugland

              So I stored booleans in a file:

              string Morris(int S, int N)
              {
              string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
              using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
              {
              writer.Write(S > 2);
              writer.Write(S == 2);
              }

                      for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                      {
                          Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
              
                          using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                          {
                              int count = 1;
                              bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                              bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
              
                              bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
              
                              using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                              {
                                  while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                  {
                                      nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                      nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
              
                                      if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                      {
                                          count++;
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                          writer.Write(count > 2);
                                          writer.Write(count == 2);
                                          writer.Write(currMSB);
                                          writer.Write(currLSB);
              
                                          currMSB = nextMSB;
                                          currLSB = nextLSB;
                                          count = 1;
                                      }
              
                                  }
                                  writer.Write(count > 2);
                                  writer.Write(count == 2);
                                  writer.Write(currMSB);
                                  writer.Write(currLSB);
                              }
                          }
              
                          File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                          System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                          System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                      }
              
              
                      StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                      using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
              
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              Dave Kreskowiak
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              Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

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              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                1
                11
                21
                1211
                111221
                312211

                The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                Dave Kreskowiak

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                #62

                My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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                  Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

                  System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                  Kenneth Haugland
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                  #63

                  I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                    I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                    I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                      My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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                      I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

                      System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                        I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

                        System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                        Dave Kreskowiak

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                        #66

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                        finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                        elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                          It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                          1
                          11
                          21
                          1211
                          111221
                          312211

                          The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                          Dave Kreskowiak

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          :elephant: OK, I'll see how far I get doing it "my way" -- but I'll address the more general problem, allowing the starting input to be more than one symbol and not limited to the symbols 1, 2, and 3. Also, allowing the caller to specify the maximum subsequence length -- that'll be the hard part. I think the only alcohol in the place is one shot of tequila; it will have to be enough. Sunday morning update: By midnight I had the basic functionality (subsequence lengths 0 and 1) working and tested -- but using a List<T> which means that there are allocation issues. This morning's immediate goal -- implement a SegmentedList<T> class. Sunday afternoon update: The SegmentedList<T> is working well, and it allows for multiple threads for improved speed.

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                          • D Dave Kreskowiak

                            I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                            Kenneth Haugland
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                            #68

                            They definitely store the booleans as bytes. I ran this:

                            string MorrisBitVector32(int S, int N)
                            {
                            //Need the mask for accessing the individual bits
                            int[] _masks = new int[32];
                            {
                            _masks[0] = BitVector32.CreateMask();
                            }
                            for (int i = 1; i < 32; i++)
                            {
                            _masks[i] = BitVector32.CreateMask(_masks[i - 1]);
                            }

                                    //Hopefully setes the path to the project folder
                                    string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\\..\\..\\");
                            
                            
                                    using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                    {
                                        BitVector32 v = new BitVector32();
                                        // Standard 3 = 11, 2=10,1=01 and 
                                        // 00 is not more numbers in this BitVector32
                                        v\[\_masks\[0\]\] = S >= 2;
                                        v\[\_masks\[1\]\] = S != 2;
                                        //Writes a 32bit integer to the file
                                        writer.Write(v.Data);
                                    }
                            
                            
                                    for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                                    {
                                        Debug.WriteLine(i + 1);
                            
                                        using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                                        {
                                            // Initiates variables for each N run
                                            bool currMSB, currLSB, firstRun;
                                            firstRun = true;
                                            currMSB = false;
                                            currLSB = false;
                                            int count = 0;
                                            int k = 0;
                                            BitVector32 outputBits = new BitVector32();
                            
                                            using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                            {
                            
                                                while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                                {
                                                    BitVector32 inputBits = new BitVector32(reader.ReadInt32());
                                                    if (firstRun)
                                                    {
                                                        count = 1;
                                                        currMSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[0\]\];
                                                        currLSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[1\]\];                                
                                                    }
                            
                            
                                                    bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                                                    for (int j = (firstRun ? 2 : 0); j < 32; j += 2)
                                                    {
                                                        nextMSB = inputBits\[\_ma
                            
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                            • D Dave Kreskowiak

                              Nope, not even close.

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                              After a bit more fiddling:

                              Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                              Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                              Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                              51st length : 1,166,642
                              52nd length : 1,521,070
                              53rd length : 1,983,164
                              54th length : 2,585,639
                              55th length : 3,371,142
                              56th length : 4,395,278
                              57th length : 5,730,540
                              58th length : 7,471,449
                              59th length : 9,741,236
                              60th length : 12,700,573
                              61st length : 16,558,941
                              62nd length : 21,589,461
                              63rd length : 28,148,228
                              64th length : 36,699,513
                              65th length : 47,848,635
                              66th length : 62,384,802
                              67th length : 81,336,981
                              68th length : 106,046,733
                              69th length : 138,263,181
                              70th length : 180,266,818
                              71st length : 235,030,941
                              72nd length : 306,432,122
                              73rd length : 399,524,610
                              74th length : 520,898,113
                              75th length : 679,144,257
                              76th length : 885,464,758
                              77th length : 1,154,464,356
                              78th length : 1,505,184,637
                              79th length : 1,962,451,918
                              80th length : 2,558,634,627
                              81st length : 3,335,934,550
                              82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                              83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                              84th length : 7,393,418,089
                              85th length : 9,639,500,137
                              86th length : 12,567,930,256
                              87th length : 16,386,002,249
                              88th length : 21,363,984,700
                              89th length : 27,854,252,387
                              90th length : 36,316,229,718
                              91st length : 47,348,911,849
                              92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                              93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                              94th length : 104,939,199,534
                              95th length : 136,819,183,789
                              96th length : 178,384,141,824
                              97th length : 232,576,318,416
                              98th length : 303,231,797,036
                              99th length : 395,352,043,407
                              100th length : 515,457,942,582

                              Regards , R

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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                1
                                11
                                21
                                1211
                                111221
                                312211

                                The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                                System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                                Dave Kreskowiak

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                                Tony Riddiough
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                                Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                  After a bit more fiddling:

                                  Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                                  Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                                  Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                                  51st length : 1,166,642
                                  52nd length : 1,521,070
                                  53rd length : 1,983,164
                                  54th length : 2,585,639
                                  55th length : 3,371,142
                                  56th length : 4,395,278
                                  57th length : 5,730,540
                                  58th length : 7,471,449
                                  59th length : 9,741,236
                                  60th length : 12,700,573
                                  61st length : 16,558,941
                                  62nd length : 21,589,461
                                  63rd length : 28,148,228
                                  64th length : 36,699,513
                                  65th length : 47,848,635
                                  66th length : 62,384,802
                                  67th length : 81,336,981
                                  68th length : 106,046,733
                                  69th length : 138,263,181
                                  70th length : 180,266,818
                                  71st length : 235,030,941
                                  72nd length : 306,432,122
                                  73rd length : 399,524,610
                                  74th length : 520,898,113
                                  75th length : 679,144,257
                                  76th length : 885,464,758
                                  77th length : 1,154,464,356
                                  78th length : 1,505,184,637
                                  79th length : 1,962,451,918
                                  80th length : 2,558,634,627
                                  81st length : 3,335,934,550
                                  82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                                  83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                                  84th length : 7,393,418,089
                                  85th length : 9,639,500,137
                                  86th length : 12,567,930,256
                                  87th length : 16,386,002,249
                                  88th length : 21,363,984,700
                                  89th length : 27,854,252,387
                                  90th length : 36,316,229,718
                                  91st length : 47,348,911,849
                                  92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                                  93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                                  94th length : 104,939,199,534
                                  95th length : 136,819,183,789
                                  96th length : 178,384,141,824
                                  97th length : 232,576,318,416
                                  98th length : 303,231,797,036
                                  99th length : 395,352,043,407
                                  100th length : 515,457,942,582

                                  Regards , R

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                                  Wrong again!

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                                    Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                    I didn't follow that.

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                                      It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                      1
                                      11
                                      21
                                      1211
                                      111221
                                      312211

                                      The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

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                                      The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

                                      System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                        level 1 size = 1
                                        level 2 size = 2
                                        level 3 size = 2
                                        level 4 size = 4
                                        level 5 size = 6
                                        level 6 size = 6
                                        level 7 size = 8
                                        level 8 size = 10
                                        level 9 size = 14
                                        level 10 size = 20
                                        level 11 size = 26
                                        level 12 size = 34
                                        level 13 size = 46
                                        level 14 size = 62
                                        level 15 size = 78
                                        level 16 size = 102
                                        level 17 size = 134
                                        level 18 size = 176
                                        level 19 size = 226
                                        level 20 size = 302
                                        level 21 size = 408
                                        level 22 size = 528
                                        level 23 size = 678
                                        level 24 size = 904
                                        level 25 size = 1182
                                        level 26 size = 1540
                                        level 27 size = 2012
                                        level 28 size = 2606
                                        level 29 size = 3410
                                        level 30 size = 4462
                                        level 31 size = 5808
                                        level 32 size = 7586
                                        level 33 size = 9898
                                        level 34 size = 12884
                                        level 35 size = 16774
                                        level 36 size = 21890
                                        level 37 size = 28528
                                        level 38 size = 37158
                                        level 39 size = 48410
                                        level 40 size = 63138
                                        level 41 size = 82350
                                        level 42 size = 107312
                                        level 43 size = 139984
                                        level 44 size = 182376
                                        level 45 size = 237746
                                        level 46 size = 310036
                                        level 47 size = 403966
                                        level 48 size = 526646
                                        level 49 size = 686646
                                        level 50 size = 894810
                                        level 51 size = 1166642
                                        level 52 size = 1520986
                                        level 53 size = 1982710
                                        level 54 size = 2584304
                                        level 55 size = 3369156
                                        level 56 size = 4391702
                                        level 57 size = 5724486
                                        level 58 size = 7462860
                                        level 59 size = 9727930
                                        level 60 size = 12680852
                                        level 61 size = 16530884
                                        level 62 size = 21549544
                                        level 63 size = 28091184
                                        level 64 size = 36619162
                                        level 65 size = 47736936
                                        level 66 size = 62226614
                                        level 67 size = 81117366
                                        level 68 size = 105745224
                                        level 69 size = 137842560
                                        level 70 size = 179691598
                                        level 71 size = 234241786
                                        level 72 size = 305351794
                                        level 73 size = 398049970
                                        level 74 size = 518891358
                                        level 75 size = 676414798
                                        level 76 size = 881752750
                                        level 77 size = 1149440192
                                        level 78 size = 1498380104
                                        level 79 size = 1953245418
                                        level 80 size = 2546222700
                                        level 81 size = 3319186080
                                        level 82 size = 4326816254
                                        level 83 size = 5640348764
                                        level 84 size = 7352630884
                                        level 85 size = 9584715106
                                        level 86 size = 12494412020
                                        level 87 size = 16287462624
                                        level 88 size = 21231903676
                                        level 89 size = 27677468012
                                        level 90 size = 36079732206
                                        level 91 size = 47032657188
                                        level 92 size = 61310766500
                                        level 93 size = 79923316046
                                        level 94 size = 104186199146
                                        level 95 size = 135814773100
                                        level 96 size = 177045063068
                                        level 97 size = 230791944956
                                        level 98 size = 300854953626
                                        level 99 size = 392187941864
                                        level 100 size = 511247092564
                                        finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                                        elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                                        Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

                                        System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                          Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

                                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                          Since we only need to compute the length, storing the entire string isn't necessary. Furthermore, the computation can be done recursively and requires very little code/storage for each level of recursion. The memory footprint while running was about 16k IIRC. I removed some extraneous code and got the runtime at l=100 to about 1.5 hours. Probably could optimize it even more, but I don't see the point. I'd post code here but it seems to be discouraged.

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