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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

    1113213211

    11 132132 11 <== 13?

    21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

    What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

    1113213211

    111 32132 11

    31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

    There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

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    Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

    What happened to the 13?

    There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

    Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

    How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

    Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

    (1,1)
    (2,1)
    ...
    (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
    ...

    The question is about only the number of digits.

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    • U User 13520686

      340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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      What base? The length is 10 -- in some base I haven't determined yet.

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

        1
        11
        21
        1211
        111221
        312211

        The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

        System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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        Kenneth Haugland
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        So I stored booleans in a file:

        string Morris(int S, int N)
        {
        string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
        using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
        {
        writer.Write(S > 2);
        writer.Write(S == 2);
        }

                for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                {
                    Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
        
                    using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                    {
                        int count = 1;
                        bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                        bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
        
                        bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
        
                        using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                        {
                            while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                            {
                                nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
        
                                if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                {
                                    count++;
                                }
                                else
                                {
                                    writer.Write(count > 2);
                                    writer.Write(count == 2);
                                    writer.Write(currMSB);
                                    writer.Write(currLSB);
        
                                    currMSB = nextMSB;
                                    currLSB = nextLSB;
                                    count = 1;
                                }
        
                            }
                            writer.Write(count > 2);
                            writer.Write(count == 2);
                            writer.Write(currMSB);
                            writer.Write(currLSB);
                        }
                    }
        
                    File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                    System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                    System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                }
        
        
                StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
        
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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

          What happened to the 13?

          There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

          How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

          Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

          (1,1)
          (2,1)
          ...
          (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
          ...

          The question is about only the number of digits.

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          Ah, OK. I missed that. Hmmm. In my implementation, I wrote up a reader/writer that takes care of the "on the fly". This would make an interesting, and challenging, implementation to write. I'll have to look into trying this next weekend. My current implementation writes all the data but there is an option to convert the data to a human-readable format. Not that you'd want to see thousands of pages of 1's, 2's, and 3's, but it did come in handy for analysis when experimenting with implementations.

          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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          • K Kenneth Haugland

            So I stored booleans in a file:

            string Morris(int S, int N)
            {
            string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
            using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
            {
            writer.Write(S > 2);
            writer.Write(S == 2);
            }

                    for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                    {
                        Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
            
                        using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                        {
                            int count = 1;
                            bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                            bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
            
                            bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
            
                            using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                            {
                                while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                {
                                    nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                    nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
            
                                    if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                    {
                                        count++;
                                    }
                                    else
                                    {
                                        writer.Write(count > 2);
                                        writer.Write(count == 2);
                                        writer.Write(currMSB);
                                        writer.Write(currLSB);
            
                                        currMSB = nextMSB;
                                        currLSB = nextLSB;
                                        count = 1;
                                    }
            
                                }
                                writer.Write(count > 2);
                                writer.Write(count == 2);
                                writer.Write(currMSB);
                                writer.Write(currLSB);
                            }
                        }
            
                        File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                        System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                        System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                    }
            
            
                    StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                    using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
            
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            Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

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            • D Dave Kreskowiak

              It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

              1
              11
              21
              1211
              111221
              312211

              The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

              System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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              My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

                System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                Kenneth Haugland
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                I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                • K Kenneth Haugland

                  I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                  I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                    My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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                    I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

                    System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

                      System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                      #66

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                      finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                      elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                        It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                        1
                        11
                        21
                        1211
                        111221
                        312211

                        The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                        System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                        Dave Kreskowiak

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                        #67

                        :elephant: OK, I'll see how far I get doing it "my way" -- but I'll address the more general problem, allowing the starting input to be more than one symbol and not limited to the symbols 1, 2, and 3. Also, allowing the caller to specify the maximum subsequence length -- that'll be the hard part. I think the only alcohol in the place is one shot of tequila; it will have to be enough. Sunday morning update: By midnight I had the basic functionality (subsequence lengths 0 and 1) working and tested -- but using a List<T> which means that there are allocation issues. This morning's immediate goal -- implement a SegmentedList<T> class. Sunday afternoon update: The SegmentedList<T> is working well, and it allows for multiple threads for improved speed.

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                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                          I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                          Kenneth Haugland
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                          #68

                          They definitely store the booleans as bytes. I ran this:

                          string MorrisBitVector32(int S, int N)
                          {
                          //Need the mask for accessing the individual bits
                          int[] _masks = new int[32];
                          {
                          _masks[0] = BitVector32.CreateMask();
                          }
                          for (int i = 1; i < 32; i++)
                          {
                          _masks[i] = BitVector32.CreateMask(_masks[i - 1]);
                          }

                                  //Hopefully setes the path to the project folder
                                  string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\\..\\..\\");
                          
                          
                                  using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                  {
                                      BitVector32 v = new BitVector32();
                                      // Standard 3 = 11, 2=10,1=01 and 
                                      // 00 is not more numbers in this BitVector32
                                      v\[\_masks\[0\]\] = S >= 2;
                                      v\[\_masks\[1\]\] = S != 2;
                                      //Writes a 32bit integer to the file
                                      writer.Write(v.Data);
                                  }
                          
                          
                                  for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                                  {
                                      Debug.WriteLine(i + 1);
                          
                                      using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                                      {
                                          // Initiates variables for each N run
                                          bool currMSB, currLSB, firstRun;
                                          firstRun = true;
                                          currMSB = false;
                                          currLSB = false;
                                          int count = 0;
                                          int k = 0;
                                          BitVector32 outputBits = new BitVector32();
                          
                                          using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                          {
                          
                                              while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                              {
                                                  BitVector32 inputBits = new BitVector32(reader.ReadInt32());
                                                  if (firstRun)
                                                  {
                                                      count = 1;
                                                      currMSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[0\]\];
                                                      currLSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[1\]\];                                
                                                  }
                          
                          
                                                  bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                                                  for (int j = (firstRun ? 2 : 0); j < 32; j += 2)
                                                  {
                                                      nextMSB = inputBits\[\_ma
                          
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                          • D Dave Kreskowiak

                            Nope, not even close.

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                            After a bit more fiddling:

                            Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                            Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                            Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                            51st length : 1,166,642
                            52nd length : 1,521,070
                            53rd length : 1,983,164
                            54th length : 2,585,639
                            55th length : 3,371,142
                            56th length : 4,395,278
                            57th length : 5,730,540
                            58th length : 7,471,449
                            59th length : 9,741,236
                            60th length : 12,700,573
                            61st length : 16,558,941
                            62nd length : 21,589,461
                            63rd length : 28,148,228
                            64th length : 36,699,513
                            65th length : 47,848,635
                            66th length : 62,384,802
                            67th length : 81,336,981
                            68th length : 106,046,733
                            69th length : 138,263,181
                            70th length : 180,266,818
                            71st length : 235,030,941
                            72nd length : 306,432,122
                            73rd length : 399,524,610
                            74th length : 520,898,113
                            75th length : 679,144,257
                            76th length : 885,464,758
                            77th length : 1,154,464,356
                            78th length : 1,505,184,637
                            79th length : 1,962,451,918
                            80th length : 2,558,634,627
                            81st length : 3,335,934,550
                            82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                            83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                            84th length : 7,393,418,089
                            85th length : 9,639,500,137
                            86th length : 12,567,930,256
                            87th length : 16,386,002,249
                            88th length : 21,363,984,700
                            89th length : 27,854,252,387
                            90th length : 36,316,229,718
                            91st length : 47,348,911,849
                            92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                            93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                            94th length : 104,939,199,534
                            95th length : 136,819,183,789
                            96th length : 178,384,141,824
                            97th length : 232,576,318,416
                            98th length : 303,231,797,036
                            99th length : 395,352,043,407
                            100th length : 515,457,942,582

                            Regards , R

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                            • D Dave Kreskowiak

                              It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                              1
                              11
                              21
                              1211
                              111221
                              312211

                              The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                              System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                              Dave Kreskowiak

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                              Tony Riddiough
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                              Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                After a bit more fiddling:

                                Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                                Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                                Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                                51st length : 1,166,642
                                52nd length : 1,521,070
                                53rd length : 1,983,164
                                54th length : 2,585,639
                                55th length : 3,371,142
                                56th length : 4,395,278
                                57th length : 5,730,540
                                58th length : 7,471,449
                                59th length : 9,741,236
                                60th length : 12,700,573
                                61st length : 16,558,941
                                62nd length : 21,589,461
                                63rd length : 28,148,228
                                64th length : 36,699,513
                                65th length : 47,848,635
                                66th length : 62,384,802
                                67th length : 81,336,981
                                68th length : 106,046,733
                                69th length : 138,263,181
                                70th length : 180,266,818
                                71st length : 235,030,941
                                72nd length : 306,432,122
                                73rd length : 399,524,610
                                74th length : 520,898,113
                                75th length : 679,144,257
                                76th length : 885,464,758
                                77th length : 1,154,464,356
                                78th length : 1,505,184,637
                                79th length : 1,962,451,918
                                80th length : 2,558,634,627
                                81st length : 3,335,934,550
                                82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                                83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                                84th length : 7,393,418,089
                                85th length : 9,639,500,137
                                86th length : 12,567,930,256
                                87th length : 16,386,002,249
                                88th length : 21,363,984,700
                                89th length : 27,854,252,387
                                90th length : 36,316,229,718
                                91st length : 47,348,911,849
                                92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                                93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                                94th length : 104,939,199,534
                                95th length : 136,819,183,789
                                96th length : 178,384,141,824
                                97th length : 232,576,318,416
                                98th length : 303,231,797,036
                                99th length : 395,352,043,407
                                100th length : 515,457,942,582

                                Regards , R

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                                Wrong again!

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                                  Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                  I didn't follow that.

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                                    It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                    1
                                    11
                                    21
                                    1211
                                    111221
                                    312211

                                    The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

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                                    The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

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                                      level 1 size = 1
                                      level 2 size = 2
                                      level 3 size = 2
                                      level 4 size = 4
                                      level 5 size = 6
                                      level 6 size = 6
                                      level 7 size = 8
                                      level 8 size = 10
                                      level 9 size = 14
                                      level 10 size = 20
                                      level 11 size = 26
                                      level 12 size = 34
                                      level 13 size = 46
                                      level 14 size = 62
                                      level 15 size = 78
                                      level 16 size = 102
                                      level 17 size = 134
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                                      level 21 size = 408
                                      level 22 size = 528
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                                      level 24 size = 904
                                      level 25 size = 1182
                                      level 26 size = 1540
                                      level 27 size = 2012
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                                      level 29 size = 3410
                                      level 30 size = 4462
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                                      level 32 size = 7586
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                                      level 40 size = 63138
                                      level 41 size = 82350
                                      level 42 size = 107312
                                      level 43 size = 139984
                                      level 44 size = 182376
                                      level 45 size = 237746
                                      level 46 size = 310036
                                      level 47 size = 403966
                                      level 48 size = 526646
                                      level 49 size = 686646
                                      level 50 size = 894810
                                      level 51 size = 1166642
                                      level 52 size = 1520986
                                      level 53 size = 1982710
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                                      level 56 size = 4391702
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                                      level 59 size = 9727930
                                      level 60 size = 12680852
                                      level 61 size = 16530884
                                      level 62 size = 21549544
                                      level 63 size = 28091184
                                      level 64 size = 36619162
                                      level 65 size = 47736936
                                      level 66 size = 62226614
                                      level 67 size = 81117366
                                      level 68 size = 105745224
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                                      level 70 size = 179691598
                                      level 71 size = 234241786
                                      level 72 size = 305351794
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                                      level 74 size = 518891358
                                      level 75 size = 676414798
                                      level 76 size = 881752750
                                      level 77 size = 1149440192
                                      level 78 size = 1498380104
                                      level 79 size = 1953245418
                                      level 80 size = 2546222700
                                      level 81 size = 3319186080
                                      level 82 size = 4326816254
                                      level 83 size = 5640348764
                                      level 84 size = 7352630884
                                      level 85 size = 9584715106
                                      level 86 size = 12494412020
                                      level 87 size = 16287462624
                                      level 88 size = 21231903676
                                      level 89 size = 27677468012
                                      level 90 size = 36079732206
                                      level 91 size = 47032657188
                                      level 92 size = 61310766500
                                      level 93 size = 79923316046
                                      level 94 size = 104186199146
                                      level 95 size = 135814773100
                                      level 96 size = 177045063068
                                      level 97 size = 230791944956
                                      level 98 size = 300854953626
                                      level 99 size = 392187941864
                                      level 100 size = 511247092564
                                      finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                                      elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                                      Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

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                                        Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

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                                        Since we only need to compute the length, storing the entire string isn't necessary. Furthermore, the computation can be done recursively and requires very little code/storage for each level of recursion. The memory footprint while running was about 16k IIRC. I removed some extraneous code and got the runtime at l=100 to about 1.5 hours. Probably could optimize it even more, but I don't see the point. I'd post code here but it seems to be discouraged.

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                                          Since we only need to compute the length, storing the entire string isn't necessary. Furthermore, the computation can be done recursively and requires very little code/storage for each level of recursion. The memory footprint while running was about 16k IIRC. I removed some extraneous code and got the runtime at l=100 to about 1.5 hours. Probably could optimize it even more, but I don't see the point. I'd post code here but it seems to be discouraged.

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                                          It would be interesting to see. Code has been an exception in the past for challenges like this.

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