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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

    1
    11
    21
    1211
    111221
    312211

    The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

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    :elephant: OK, I'll see how far I get doing it "my way" -- but I'll address the more general problem, allowing the starting input to be more than one symbol and not limited to the symbols 1, 2, and 3. Also, allowing the caller to specify the maximum subsequence length -- that'll be the hard part. I think the only alcohol in the place is one shot of tequila; it will have to be enough. Sunday morning update: By midnight I had the basic functionality (subsequence lengths 0 and 1) working and tested -- but using a List<T> which means that there are allocation issues. This morning's immediate goal -- implement a SegmentedList<T> class. Sunday afternoon update: The SegmentedList<T> is working well, and it allows for multiple threads for improved speed.

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    • D Dave Kreskowiak

      I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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      Kenneth Haugland
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      They definitely store the booleans as bytes. I ran this:

      string MorrisBitVector32(int S, int N)
      {
      //Need the mask for accessing the individual bits
      int[] _masks = new int[32];
      {
      _masks[0] = BitVector32.CreateMask();
      }
      for (int i = 1; i < 32; i++)
      {
      _masks[i] = BitVector32.CreateMask(_masks[i - 1]);
      }

              //Hopefully setes the path to the project folder
              string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\\..\\..\\");
      
      
              using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
              {
                  BitVector32 v = new BitVector32();
                  // Standard 3 = 11, 2=10,1=01 and 
                  // 00 is not more numbers in this BitVector32
                  v\[\_masks\[0\]\] = S >= 2;
                  v\[\_masks\[1\]\] = S != 2;
                  //Writes a 32bit integer to the file
                  writer.Write(v.Data);
              }
      
      
              for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
              {
                  Debug.WriteLine(i + 1);
      
                  using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                  {
                      // Initiates variables for each N run
                      bool currMSB, currLSB, firstRun;
                      firstRun = true;
                      currMSB = false;
                      currLSB = false;
                      int count = 0;
                      int k = 0;
                      BitVector32 outputBits = new BitVector32();
      
                      using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                      {
      
                          while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                          {
                              BitVector32 inputBits = new BitVector32(reader.ReadInt32());
                              if (firstRun)
                              {
                                  count = 1;
                                  currMSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[0\]\];
                                  currLSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[1\]\];                                
                              }
      
      
                              bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                              for (int j = (firstRun ? 2 : 0); j < 32; j += 2)
                              {
                                  nextMSB = inputBits\[\_ma
      
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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Nope, not even close.

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        After a bit more fiddling:

        Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
        Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
        Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
        51st length : 1,166,642
        52nd length : 1,521,070
        53rd length : 1,983,164
        54th length : 2,585,639
        55th length : 3,371,142
        56th length : 4,395,278
        57th length : 5,730,540
        58th length : 7,471,449
        59th length : 9,741,236
        60th length : 12,700,573
        61st length : 16,558,941
        62nd length : 21,589,461
        63rd length : 28,148,228
        64th length : 36,699,513
        65th length : 47,848,635
        66th length : 62,384,802
        67th length : 81,336,981
        68th length : 106,046,733
        69th length : 138,263,181
        70th length : 180,266,818
        71st length : 235,030,941
        72nd length : 306,432,122
        73rd length : 399,524,610
        74th length : 520,898,113
        75th length : 679,144,257
        76th length : 885,464,758
        77th length : 1,154,464,356
        78th length : 1,505,184,637
        79th length : 1,962,451,918
        80th length : 2,558,634,627
        81st length : 3,335,934,550
        82nd length : 4,349,374,155
        83rd length : 5,670,691,453
        84th length : 7,393,418,089
        85th length : 9,639,500,137
        86th length : 12,567,930,256
        87th length : 16,386,002,249
        88th length : 21,363,984,700
        89th length : 27,854,252,387
        90th length : 36,316,229,718
        91st length : 47,348,911,849
        92nd length : 61,733,265,560
        93rd length : 80,487,511,283
        94th length : 104,939,199,534
        95th length : 136,819,183,789
        96th length : 178,384,141,824
        97th length : 232,576,318,416
        98th length : 303,231,797,036
        99th length : 395,352,043,407
        100th length : 515,457,942,582

        Regards , R

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        • D Dave Kreskowiak

          It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

          1
          11
          21
          1211
          111221
          312211

          The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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          Tony Riddiough
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          Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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            After a bit more fiddling:

            Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
            Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
            Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
            51st length : 1,166,642
            52nd length : 1,521,070
            53rd length : 1,983,164
            54th length : 2,585,639
            55th length : 3,371,142
            56th length : 4,395,278
            57th length : 5,730,540
            58th length : 7,471,449
            59th length : 9,741,236
            60th length : 12,700,573
            61st length : 16,558,941
            62nd length : 21,589,461
            63rd length : 28,148,228
            64th length : 36,699,513
            65th length : 47,848,635
            66th length : 62,384,802
            67th length : 81,336,981
            68th length : 106,046,733
            69th length : 138,263,181
            70th length : 180,266,818
            71st length : 235,030,941
            72nd length : 306,432,122
            73rd length : 399,524,610
            74th length : 520,898,113
            75th length : 679,144,257
            76th length : 885,464,758
            77th length : 1,154,464,356
            78th length : 1,505,184,637
            79th length : 1,962,451,918
            80th length : 2,558,634,627
            81st length : 3,335,934,550
            82nd length : 4,349,374,155
            83rd length : 5,670,691,453
            84th length : 7,393,418,089
            85th length : 9,639,500,137
            86th length : 12,567,930,256
            87th length : 16,386,002,249
            88th length : 21,363,984,700
            89th length : 27,854,252,387
            90th length : 36,316,229,718
            91st length : 47,348,911,849
            92nd length : 61,733,265,560
            93rd length : 80,487,511,283
            94th length : 104,939,199,534
            95th length : 136,819,183,789
            96th length : 178,384,141,824
            97th length : 232,576,318,416
            98th length : 303,231,797,036
            99th length : 395,352,043,407
            100th length : 515,457,942,582

            Regards , R

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            Wrong again!

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              Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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              I didn't follow that.

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              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                1
                11
                21
                1211
                111221
                312211

                The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                Dave Kreskowiak
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                The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

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                  level 1 size = 1
                  level 2 size = 2
                  level 3 size = 2
                  level 4 size = 4
                  level 5 size = 6
                  level 6 size = 6
                  level 7 size = 8
                  level 8 size = 10
                  level 9 size = 14
                  level 10 size = 20
                  level 11 size = 26
                  level 12 size = 34
                  level 13 size = 46
                  level 14 size = 62
                  level 15 size = 78
                  level 16 size = 102
                  level 17 size = 134
                  level 18 size = 176
                  level 19 size = 226
                  level 20 size = 302
                  level 21 size = 408
                  level 22 size = 528
                  level 23 size = 678
                  level 24 size = 904
                  level 25 size = 1182
                  level 26 size = 1540
                  level 27 size = 2012
                  level 28 size = 2606
                  level 29 size = 3410
                  level 30 size = 4462
                  level 31 size = 5808
                  level 32 size = 7586
                  level 33 size = 9898
                  level 34 size = 12884
                  level 35 size = 16774
                  level 36 size = 21890
                  level 37 size = 28528
                  level 38 size = 37158
                  level 39 size = 48410
                  level 40 size = 63138
                  level 41 size = 82350
                  level 42 size = 107312
                  level 43 size = 139984
                  level 44 size = 182376
                  level 45 size = 237746
                  level 46 size = 310036
                  level 47 size = 403966
                  level 48 size = 526646
                  level 49 size = 686646
                  level 50 size = 894810
                  level 51 size = 1166642
                  level 52 size = 1520986
                  level 53 size = 1982710
                  level 54 size = 2584304
                  level 55 size = 3369156
                  level 56 size = 4391702
                  level 57 size = 5724486
                  level 58 size = 7462860
                  level 59 size = 9727930
                  level 60 size = 12680852
                  level 61 size = 16530884
                  level 62 size = 21549544
                  level 63 size = 28091184
                  level 64 size = 36619162
                  level 65 size = 47736936
                  level 66 size = 62226614
                  level 67 size = 81117366
                  level 68 size = 105745224
                  level 69 size = 137842560
                  level 70 size = 179691598
                  level 71 size = 234241786
                  level 72 size = 305351794
                  level 73 size = 398049970
                  level 74 size = 518891358
                  level 75 size = 676414798
                  level 76 size = 881752750
                  level 77 size = 1149440192
                  level 78 size = 1498380104
                  level 79 size = 1953245418
                  level 80 size = 2546222700
                  level 81 size = 3319186080
                  level 82 size = 4326816254
                  level 83 size = 5640348764
                  level 84 size = 7352630884
                  level 85 size = 9584715106
                  level 86 size = 12494412020
                  level 87 size = 16287462624
                  level 88 size = 21231903676
                  level 89 size = 27677468012
                  level 90 size = 36079732206
                  level 91 size = 47032657188
                  level 92 size = 61310766500
                  level 93 size = 79923316046
                  level 94 size = 104186199146
                  level 95 size = 135814773100
                  level 96 size = 177045063068
                  level 97 size = 230791944956
                  level 98 size = 300854953626
                  level 99 size = 392187941864
                  level 100 size = 511247092564
                  finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                  elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                  Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

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                    Congratulations! You're the first to post the correct answer. Extra credit: how did you do it in 2 hours?

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                    Since we only need to compute the length, storing the entire string isn't necessary. Furthermore, the computation can be done recursively and requires very little code/storage for each level of recursion. The memory footprint while running was about 16k IIRC. I removed some extraneous code and got the runtime at l=100 to about 1.5 hours. Probably could optimize it even more, but I don't see the point. I'd post code here but it seems to be discouraged.

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                      Since we only need to compute the length, storing the entire string isn't necessary. Furthermore, the computation can be done recursively and requires very little code/storage for each level of recursion. The memory footprint while running was about 16k IIRC. I removed some extraneous code and got the runtime at l=100 to about 1.5 hours. Probably could optimize it even more, but I don't see the point. I'd post code here but it seems to be discouraged.

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                      It would be interesting to see. Code has been an exception in the past for challenges like this.

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                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                        It would be interesting to see. Code has been an exception in the past for challenges like this.

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                        OK, here it is... #include #include #include using namespace std; #define maxLevel 100 static uint32_t currentLevel = 0; static chrono::time_point start, timeFinished; class LevelProcessor { public: LevelProcessor() : currentOccurrence(0), currentPrefix(0), myLevel(currentLevel++), totalSize(0) { } void ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix); void FinishLevel(); uint32_t currentOccurrence; uint32_t currentPrefix; const uint32_t myLevel; uint64_t totalSize; }; static LevelProcessor processors[maxLevel]; void LevelProcessor::ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix) { if (prefix == currentPrefix) { ++currentOccurrence; return; } if (currentOccurrence != 0) { if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } ++totalSize; } currentPrefix = prefix; currentOccurrence = 1; } void LevelProcessor::FinishLevel() { ++totalSize; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } chrono::time_point timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "level " << myLevel + 1 << " is done, size = " << totalSize * 2 << " at " << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) processors[myLevel + 1].FinishLevel(); } int main() { start = chrono::system_clock::now(); processors[1].ProcessLevel(1); processors[1].FinishLevel(); timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "finished computation at " << ctime(&end_time) << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; } So much for my indenting, oh well.

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                          OK, here it is... #include #include #include using namespace std; #define maxLevel 100 static uint32_t currentLevel = 0; static chrono::time_point start, timeFinished; class LevelProcessor { public: LevelProcessor() : currentOccurrence(0), currentPrefix(0), myLevel(currentLevel++), totalSize(0) { } void ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix); void FinishLevel(); uint32_t currentOccurrence; uint32_t currentPrefix; const uint32_t myLevel; uint64_t totalSize; }; static LevelProcessor processors[maxLevel]; void LevelProcessor::ProcessLevel(uint32_t prefix) { if (prefix == currentPrefix) { ++currentOccurrence; return; } if (currentOccurrence != 0) { if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } ++totalSize; } currentPrefix = prefix; currentOccurrence = 1; } void LevelProcessor::FinishLevel() { ++totalSize; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) { processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentOccurrence); processors[myLevel + 1].ProcessLevel(currentPrefix); } chrono::time_point timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "level " << myLevel + 1 << " is done, size = " << totalSize * 2 << " at " << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; if (myLevel < maxLevel - 1) processors[myLevel + 1].FinishLevel(); } int main() { start = chrono::system_clock::now(); processors[1].ProcessLevel(1); processors[1].FinishLevel(); timeFinished = chrono::system_clock::now(); chrono::duration elapsed_seconds = timeFinished - start; time_t end_time = chrono::system_clock::to_time_t(timeFinished); cout << "finished computation at " << ctime(&end_time) << "elapsed time: " << elapsed_seconds.count() << "secs" << endl; } So much for my indenting, oh well.

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                          Interesting. When I originally did the research into this thing I saw the pattern developing in the brute force results but I was never able to get any code to work that looked for and tracked the pattern. I'll have to dig into this later to see exactly how it works and where I made my mistakes. I still have a couple of the broken projects from way back then. Thanks for sharing!

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                            I didn't follow that.

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                            The quick and dirty code I wrote was

                            #include
                            #include

                            class s {
                            private:
                            char indx;
                            char ondx;
                            char v[10];
                            public:
                            bool done;
                            unsigned long long count;
                            s(void) {
                            indx = '\0';
                            ondx = '\0';
                            done = false;
                            count= 0UL;
                            }
                            void put (char c) {
                            v[indx++] = c;
                            indx = indx % 10;
                            }
                            char get (void) {
                            char c = v[ondx++];
                            ondx = ondx %10;
                            return c;
                            }
                            char peek (void) {
                            return v[ondx];
                            }
                            bool isEmpty (void) {
                            return indx == ondx;
                            }
                            };

                            s context[100];

                            // the two functions "nextItem" and "doCount" call each other recursively.

                            bool nextItem (char& c, int level);

                            // count number of consecutive instances of v from level below
                            // return count as a character in 'c'; save v with msb set. and
                            // character which terminated count in context.
                            void doCount (char& c, char v, int level) {
                            bool r = false;
                            s& x = context[level];
                            c = '1';
                            x.put (v + 0X80);
                            while (!x.done) {
                            char t;
                            x.done = nextItem (t, level - 1);
                            if (t == v) {
                            c++;
                            }
                            else {
                            // count is complete so we need to put the terminating value
                            // in the buffer, value we are counting is already there
                            x.put (t);
                            break;
                            }
                            }
                            }

                            // return in 'c' the next character from the specified level
                            // signal done if that character is the last.
                            // there are two special cases:
                            // 1) level = 0, the single character '1' is returned and done is signalled
                            // 2) There are no characters held in the context (this must be the first entry)
                            // Otherwise there are one or two characters in the context. If the next character
                            // held in the context ha the msb set, the count has already been returned so the
                            // character should be returned. Otherwise the character is the terminating character
                            // from the last count and more repetitions (if any) must be counted, after which the
                            // count is returned. When the lower level has signalled done, then when the last
                            // character is returned also signal done.
                            // Count the number of characters returned and when the last character is returned and
                            // done s signalled, report the level and the total.

                            bool nextItem (char& c, int level) {
                            s& x = context[level];
                            bool r = false;
                            if (!x.isEmpty()) {
                            // more ready to output
                            char v = x.get();
                            c = v & 0X7F;
                            if (v & 0X80) {
                            r = x.isEmpty();
                            }
                            else {
                            // this is the next value and we need to count any more
                            doCount (c, v, level);
                            }
                            }
                            else if (level == 0) {
                            // at the lowest level the seed is a single '1'
                            c

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                              Interesting. When I originally did the research into this thing I saw the pattern developing in the brute force results but I was never able to get any code to work that looked for and tracked the pattern. I'll have to dig into this later to see exactly how it works and where I made my mistakes. I still have a couple of the broken projects from way back then. Thanks for sharing!

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                              I wish I could say that this is exploiting some underlying pattern, but it's really just a more efficient brute force implementation. It's more like a depth-first tree traversal - you never have to compute and store the entire string at one level before working on the next.

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                                I wish I could say that this is exploiting some underlying pattern, but it's really just a more efficient brute force implementation. It's more like a depth-first tree traversal - you never have to compute and store the entire string at one level before working on the next.

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                                That's what I thought. When I originally started looking at this, I found the storage requirements for a single iteration were going to jump exponentially. I was looking for a method to do this, something like what you've done, but couldn't get it to work.

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                                  I wish I could say that this is exploiting some underlying pattern, but it's really just a more efficient brute force implementation. It's more like a depth-first tree traversal - you never have to compute and store the entire string at one level before working on the next.

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                                  Wow, I see where my previous mistakes were compared to yours. I got a couple of hints from your code that got my old code working, and what I was misinterpreting. Your code, on my machine, does the 100 numbers in an hour and ten minutes. FAR faster than my brute force runs that store every iteration on disk in a byte-compressed format and takes just under 6 hours to run. Thanks for the help!

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                                    The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

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                                    I've left my totally brute-force string-based solution running for 4 days and it's only on the 64th iteration having got up to 50 within an hour - so, yeah, that rather underlines how it can never really be achieved in reasonable time without an awful lot more finesse. I really enjoyed this as a coding challenge even though I didn't get remotely close to cracking it. A simple looking task on the surface but one that soon reveals itself to be monumentally problematic.

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                                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                      Wow, I see where my previous mistakes were compared to yours. I got a couple of hints from your code that got my old code working, and what I was misinterpreting. Your code, on my machine, does the 100 numbers in an hour and ten minutes. FAR faster than my brute force runs that store every iteration on disk in a byte-compressed format and takes just under 6 hours to run. Thanks for the help!

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                                      No problem. It was an interesting challenge! FWIW, I was looking further at the code and at how to optimize it. One interesting thing I found is that if the order of ProcessLevel() calls is reversed we get the same sequences but reversed! This means that the initial prefix for each level is always 1 and can be initialized as such, which then means the check for currentOccurrence != 0 in ProcessLevel() can be removed. Doesn't seem like much, but when that function is executed trillions of times it makes a noticeable difference. You must have a fast machine, 100 takes quite a bit longer for me.

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                                        No problem. It was an interesting challenge! FWIW, I was looking further at the code and at how to optimize it. One interesting thing I found is that if the order of ProcessLevel() calls is reversed we get the same sequences but reversed! This means that the initial prefix for each level is always 1 and can be initialized as such, which then means the check for currentOccurrence != 0 in ProcessLevel() can be removed. Doesn't seem like much, but when that function is executed trillions of times it makes a noticeable difference. You must have a fast machine, 100 takes quite a bit longer for me.

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                                        Interesting. I'll have to play around with that some more. I'm wondering how long it would take to get to 200, let alone 3,000. And how to hang onto numbers that big. It seems a BigInt class would be needed but performance may suffer greatly. I just built a new machine about 9 months ago, overclocked and water cooled of course. :-D

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                                          Interesting. I'll have to play around with that some more. I'm wondering how long it would take to get to 200, let alone 3,000. And how to hang onto numbers that big. It seems a BigInt class would be needed but performance may suffer greatly. I just built a new machine about 9 months ago, overclocked and water cooled of course. :-D

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                                          My runtimes are about 3500 sec at l=100 and about 50000 sec at l=110 for an increase of about 14.3x. So from l=100 to l=200 is 14.3 ^ 10 x the time, or 347,636,939,799 hours. ~39 million years, give or take :) l=3000? heh. I think that's a pretty good definition of "forever".

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