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  • A A_Griffin

    Well…. it’s quite astonishing really how you and the Republicans (if you want to distance yourself from them, but you’re at one here) can do a complete volte face without even blinking. To say it’s the Left that has “opened a Pandora’s box” is staggering – it's the Republicans who have done that. The left, for all their faults, were just bumbling along as usual (wasn’t that half the appeal of Trump - that he offered something ”different”?) and it was the Republicans who have lurched further and further to extremes. Dubya was bad enough, then they came up with Sarah Palin, but even she wasn’t quite loony enough, so finally they came up with Trump. It is he who has demeaned the office of POTUS by taking lying to a new level – which is quite an achievement for a politician; he who has courted the extreme fascist Right, to the extent that people feel free to march in the streets of America openly wearing Nazi insignia; he who is fanning the flames of racism and xenophobia. Trump has opened the box – don’t complain to anyone but him if you don’t like the smell coming out with the wind. But you're right about one thing: closing that box is going to be nigh on impossible. Just remember who opened it.

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    Damn! You REALLY enjoy that Kool-Aid! But I suppose that's to be expected of a hardcore socialist (ie. budding communist). ;P

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      Damn! You REALLY enjoy that Kool-Aid! But I suppose that's to be expected of a hardcore socialist (ie. budding communist). ;P

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      :thumbsup: #hasnoclue

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      • A A_Griffin

        Like your president, huh? There was a time when the POTUS was perhaps the most respected person and position on the planet. Now your own NY daily paper uses a big pile pf sh*t to represent him. Wake up.

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        A_Griffin wrote:

        There was a time when the POTUS was perhaps the most respected person and position on the planet.

        Bush junior? Dont you remember the piss that the U< press took out of him because of how he speaks?

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          Damn! You REALLY enjoy that Kool-Aid! But I suppose that's to be expected of a hardcore socialist (ie. budding communist). ;P

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          A_Griffin
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          #rightbackatyou I'm well past the age of "budding". But I ma not, never have been, and never will be, a communist. I did want to say though, I apologise if I come over as being rude - I don't really mean to be (usually.. to most people... most of the time...!) but I do get het up in arguments sometimes - even online ones when one has time to cool (kool?) down, and just fire things off...

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            A_Griffin wrote:

            There was a time when the POTUS was perhaps the most respected person and position on the planet.

            Bush junior? Dont you remember the piss that the U< press took out of him because of how he speaks?

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            True - the damage was started in the Nixon era, really, but even in GB's case, although he was taken the mick out of (rather unkindly, it must be said - it's never nice to mock someone for a speech impediment) it was a) never with as much malice as Trump attracts - no-ne ever depicted him as pile of shit - and b) the office (as opposed to the person) of POTUS wasn't demeaned as much as it is now. Trump has managed to drag things to a new low.

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              Damn! You REALLY enjoy that Kool-Aid! But I suppose that's to be expected of a hardcore socialist (ie. budding communist). ;P

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              Seriously - what is it in that post that is down to "Kool-Aid"? Are you really blaming the Democrats for Trump's outrages?

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                True - the damage was started in the Nixon era, really, but even in GB's case, although he was taken the mick out of (rather unkindly, it must be said - it's never nice to mock someone for a speech impediment) it was a) never with as much malice as Trump attracts - no-ne ever depicted him as pile of shit - and b) the office (as opposed to the person) of POTUS wasn't demeaned as much as it is now. Trump has managed to drag things to a new low.

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                A_Griffin wrote:

                much malice as Trump attracts - no-ne ever depicted him as pile of sh*t

                A_Griffin wrote:

                Trump has managed to drag things to a new low.

                So the leftist media prints a picture of Trump as a pile of shit - and it's Trumps fault for making them do it? Nice example of how nothing is the Lefts fault in fact they're not even responsible for their own actions.

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                  A_Griffin wrote:

                  much malice as Trump attracts - no-ne ever depicted him as pile of sh*t

                  A_Griffin wrote:

                  Trump has managed to drag things to a new low.

                  So the leftist media prints a picture of Trump as a pile of shit - and it's Trumps fault for making them do it? Nice example of how nothing is the Lefts fault in fact they're not even responsible for their own actions.

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                  Yeah but such things don't come from nothing. Call people sh*tholes and you can't complain about being called shit yourself, can you?

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                  • A A_Griffin

                    Seriously - what is it in that post that is down to "Kool-Aid"? Are you really blaming the Democrats for Trump's outrages?

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                    A_Griffin wrote:

                    Seriously - what is it in that post that is down to "Kool-Aid"?

                    That you accept the media's version of Trump hook, line and sinker. Don't even question it. It's funny - I don't recall you posting about any of Obama's scandals.

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                    Are you really blaming the Democrats for Trump's outrages?

                    Nope - Trump is a big boy. I just wish the media would even be half so anxious to destroy liberals as they are to destroy others. It gets old.

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                    • A A_Griffin

                      Yeah but such things don't come from nothing. Call people sh*tholes and you can't complain about being called shit yourself, can you?

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                      A_Griffin wrote:

                      Call people sh*tholes

                      More of that Kool-aid?! He didn't call ANYONE a shithole. He called a couple COUNTRIES shitholes. Big difference. Kind of like when people call the US the "Great Satan"... right? Or burn the American flag?

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                        A_Griffin wrote:

                        Call people sh*tholes

                        More of that Kool-aid?! He didn't call ANYONE a shithole. He called a couple COUNTRIES shitholes. Big difference. Kind of like when people call the US the "Great Satan"... right? Or burn the American flag?

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                        That's not really a relevant difference, but let me re-phrase it for you: call peoples' country a sh*thole and you can't complain if you get called a sh*thole back, can you?

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                          A_Griffin wrote:

                          Seriously - what is it in that post that is down to "Kool-Aid"?

                          That you accept the media's version of Trump hook, line and sinker. Don't even question it. It's funny - I don't recall you posting about any of Obama's scandals.

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                          Are you really blaming the Democrats for Trump's outrages?

                          Nope - Trump is a big boy. I just wish the media would even be half so anxious to destroy liberals as they are to destroy others. It gets old.

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                          That you accept the media's version of Trump hook, line and sinker. Don't even question

                          God that is such a boring old trope of an argument. "I am rational and independent of thought - you are brainwashed and unthinking." Is that all you've got? Get over yourself.

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                            That's not really a relevant difference, but let me re-phrase it for you: call peoples' country a sh*thole and you can't complain if you get called a sh*thole back, can you?

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                            A_Griffin wrote:

                            That's not really a relevant difference

                            Its a very relevant difference. Folks (like you) who don't see the difference (or don't want to) are calling the comment racist. It's not racist to call a country a shithole - it might even be accurate.

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                              That you accept the media's version of Trump hook, line and sinker. Don't even question

                              God that is such a boring old trope of an argument. "I am rational and independent of thought - you are brainwashed and unthinking." Is that all you've got? Get over yourself.

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                              A_Griffin wrote:

                              God that is such a boring old trope of an argument.

                              If the shoe fits... You spout nothing but crap spewed by the media... my statement stands.

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                                A_Griffin wrote:

                                That's not really a relevant difference

                                Its a very relevant difference. Folks (like you) who don't see the difference (or don't want to) are calling the comment racist. It's not racist to call a country a shithole - it might even be accurate.

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                                Point me to where I called that comment racist. Otherwise stfu putting words in my mouth.

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                                  A_Griffin wrote:

                                  God that is such a boring old trope of an argument.

                                  If the shoe fits... You spout nothing but crap spewed by the media... my statement stands.

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                                  In other words, yes that is all you got. Try looking in a mirror sometime.

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                                    Point me to where I called that comment racist. Otherwise stfu putting words in my mouth.

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                                    I wrote folks (like you) who don't see the difference... ...because you seemingly didn't see the difference between calling a person a shithole and calling a country a shithole. Sheesh!

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                                      I wrote folks (like you) who don't see the difference... ...because you seemingly didn't see the difference between calling a person a shithole and calling a country a shithole. Sheesh!

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                                      A_Griffin
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                                      It makes no odds though - call someone's country a sh*thole and you are likely to be called a sh*thole yourself, and can hardly complain about it. That's all I was saying. Besides, the difference is moot - a country is made up of its people. When Trump used that word he wasn't referring to the landscape.

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                                        It makes no odds though - call someone's country a sh*thole and you are likely to be called a sh*thole yourself, and can hardly complain about it. That's all I was saying. Besides, the difference is moot - a country is made up of its people. When Trump used that word he wasn't referring to the landscape.

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                                        A_Griffin wrote:

                                        can hardly complain about it.

                                        Who's complaining? My initial reply was one word... "Classy".

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                                        • A A_Griffin

                                          Yeah but such things don't come from nothing. Call people sh*tholes and you can't complain about being called shit yourself, can you?

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                                          The pompey
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                                          He never called anyone a shithole. He called Haiti a shithole which it is. And if you went there I'm sure you'd say the same. Point still stands - how can you say Trump has dragged it low when it's the Left doing that.

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