(Again) Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in October 2018 And it is Raising
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
georani wrote:
VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code.
I don't care. :cool:
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
It still has
On Error Resume Next- so it's still garbage. A popularity contest does not guarantee quality: look at the current POTUS ...Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
Seriously you are on this same issue, get over it, most of us here don't give a rats about the index and put very little faith in the veracity of it's results. Why would we, the majority of us use c# and live peaceably with the VB.net community despite the barrage of insult hurled at them from time to time.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
Do you really want your ass verbally kicked on this topic AGAIN? That index, and the others like it, STILL don't mean jack shit. THAT is why nobody is talking about it. ...except you. Original thread: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018[^]
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
Of course it is popular; everyone can be a programmer with VB :) In other news, over 50% of projects fail. Your move :cool:
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
I'm probably one of those unfortunate that had a manager who felt an urge to develop enterprise level in VB... From your post I can conclude you are not in the same boat... The day you will be curious enough to check how TIOBE's index built, you will understand how it is useless and on the same day you will understand how VB is limited...
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People celebrate when their favorite language goes to top 10 in Tiobe Index, examples: Report: Swift Now Top 10 Language[^] (wow!) TypeScript finally joins the TIOBE top 100[^] (wow!) But VB.NET is raising in popularity in this same index: Visual Basic .NET Populatrity is Raising![^] Interesting that nobody talks about this: VB.NET was in #49 position in 2011 and now it is in #5 position (2018) I received a lot of criticism from people that do not know VB.NET when I made this comment here in CodeProject: Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018 [^] These people hate VB.NET. YES, after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018, August 2018, September 2018, October 2018) Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. Visual Basic.NET IS NOT the classic VB (Old VB). VB.NET is like C# but a bit more verbose and almost like natural English, so anyone can understand VB.NET code. Current Month Ranking of Languages Popularity: www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
Popular with non-programmers.
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It still has
On Error Resume Next- so it's still garbage. A popularity contest does not guarantee quality: look at the current POTUS ...Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
It still has
On Error Resume Next- so it's still garbage.Which is really just the same as:
try
{
throw new Exception();
}
catch {}Perfectly valid (and seen) in C#. Please tell me how this makes C# garbage :D
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I'm probably one of those unfortunate that had a manager who felt an urge to develop enterprise level in VB... From your post I can conclude you are not in the same boat... The day you will be curious enough to check how TIOBE's index built, you will understand how it is useless and on the same day you will understand how VB is limited...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
From your post I can conclude you are not in the same boat my manager...
FTFY :laugh:
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
you will understand how VB is limited
It's pretty much the same as C# though. Although lately it hasn't been given the same attention as C#. It works the same for .NET, but I don't even think .NET Core supports VB. As far as I'm concerned that's Microsoft telling us VB is still supported, but not further developed. Anyway, that's not really the language's fault...
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OriginalGriff wrote:
It still has
On Error Resume Next- so it's still garbage.Which is really just the same as:
try
{
throw new Exception();
}
catch {}Perfectly valid (and seen) in C#. Please tell me how this makes C# garbage :D
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No, it isn't. It's the same as saying:
void MyMethod()
{
try { ALineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { AnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { AndAnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { YetAnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { NextLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { YetMoreLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { EvenNowALineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { EvenNowAnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
}And if you saw that on a code review you'd start swearing! :laugh: Worse, it propagates through subfunctions until another
On Erroris met - so you may never know that your code failed a hundred calls deep. It just continues as if the error line had not existed until it becomes totally impossible to ignore by which time the actual source of the error well and truly forgotten; the method may not even be in the call stack any more! And by then your DB is horribly corrupt ...Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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No, it isn't. It's the same as saying:
void MyMethod()
{
try { ALineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { AnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { AndAnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { YetAnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { NextLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { YetMoreLineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { EvenNowALineOfCode(); } catch{}
try { EvenNowAnotherLineOfCode(); } catch{}
}And if you saw that on a code review you'd start swearing! :laugh: Worse, it propagates through subfunctions until another
On Erroris met - so you may never know that your code failed a hundred calls deep. It just continues as if the error line had not existed until it becomes totally impossible to ignore by which time the actual source of the error well and truly forgotten; the method may not even be in the call stack any more! And by then your DB is horribly corrupt ...Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I've seen pretty much exactly that at one of the companies I worked at. Ok, it wasn't every line of code, but every method at least (and sometimes multiple per method). And yes, it was VB.NET (but no On Error Resume Next, it only had a few of those) :sigh: And you're right about the swearing part :laugh:
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I've seen pretty much exactly that at one of the companies I worked at. Ok, it wasn't every line of code, but every method at least (and sometimes multiple per method). And yes, it was VB.NET (but no On Error Resume Next, it only had a few of those) :sigh: And you're right about the swearing part :laugh:
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Yeah - it's the equivalent of saying "my code works because it has no compiler errors" and walking away. :laugh:
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Yeah - it's the equivalent of saying "my code works because it has no compiler errors" and walking away. :laugh:
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You're saying that like there's an alternative ;p My credo in software development is "if it compiles, ship it!"
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I'm probably one of those unfortunate that had a manager who felt an urge to develop enterprise level in VB... From your post I can conclude you are not in the same boat... The day you will be curious enough to check how TIOBE's index built, you will understand how it is useless and on the same day you will understand how VB is limited...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
...you will understand how VB is limited...
You assertion is a lie. C# and VB.NET are equivalent languages!! See: VB.NET and C# Comparison (2016)[^]
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Popular with non-programmers.
Minion no. 5 wrote:
Popular with non-programmers.
C# language is at the #6 position in that index, Java #1, Python #4... they are not programmers? Tiobe Index is the most popular comparator of programming languages on the internet, it is cited by thousands of magazines and articles in many years.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
...you will understand how VB is limited...
You assertion is a lie. C# and VB.NET are equivalent languages!! See: VB.NET and C# Comparison (2016)[^]
Sorry to use large fonts, but I guess you did not read it the first time :-DLexical part of the language is not all makes it a language... Try this in English:
Tavon a lúd átúsz, visszaúsz meg átúsz.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Of course it is popular; everyone can be a programmer with VB :) In other news, over 50% of projects fail. Your move :cool:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Of course it is popular; everyone can be a programmer with VB
With C# too, with Python too (#4 position in Tiobe index) ... Everyone can be a programmer with (put your preferred language here). Bad argument.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
In other news, over 50% of projects fail.
Source?
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Your move :cool:
Done.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Of course it is popular; everyone can be a programmer with VB
With C# too, with Python too (#4 position in Tiobe index) ... Everyone can be a programmer with (put your preferred language here). Bad argument.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
In other news, over 50% of projects fail.
Source?
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Your move :cool:
Done.
georani wrote:
Bad argument.
No, an old and valid one, and proven at that; most programmers that started as hobbyists used VB; a language that encourages bad constructs and minimizes the stuff the user has to know.
georani wrote:
Source?
Google it yourself, it is not like it is a secret.
georani wrote:
Done.
Make it serious, or don't attempt another one.
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