I lost my temper and I apologize
-
On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
-
Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
Is this the typical VB programmer? [^] :-D :laugh: :-D :laugh:
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
-
Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
I worked with VB.NET before I worked with C# and I kind of think that it does deserve a fair portion of the hate that it gets. On the rare occasions that I have to revisit it, I find it excruciating. There's something about "IIF" (eeeeeefffff?) in particular that makes me want to die. And in any case, any language that is littered with the word "Dim" is fundamentally self descriptive. Sander's charitable attitude towards VB is obviously rooted in nostalgia and can be forgiven but it boils down to a simple case of C# == good, VB = rank - there's no need for the jury to retire on this one. And yes, it would be nice if people didn't get so damned opinionated about languages! :)
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
-
On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
You're a good man, Mark. :thumbsup: /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
-
On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
After reading the other replies you made, it looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts? Anyhow, it probably will not be the last time you vent like that. I have been warned many times in the last 11+ years here that I am acting like an asshole, and need to stop. Recently I was threatened with a temporary ban after pooping all over the Soapbox. That was a wake up call. Cheers. :)
-
A long time ago I worked in interpreted BASIC, then QuickBasic, then a variant of BASIC called Metropolis (used in Alpha-Micro minis), FoxPro and a few other languages, and then I discovered C# and never looked back. I've always looked at programming language discussions wars like this: If you enjoy programming in language XYZ, have at it! If you can make a living working in it, even better! Just please don't try to ram your preferred language down my throat. Sorta like the old tabs vs spaces battle... :-D
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
-
On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
-----
You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
-----
When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
Meh...I've seen worse, but its nice to see someone be self-aware for a change. In fairness, the initial proposition was silly (and oft-repeated). Languages are simply tools. My current favorite is C#, but that changes easily, depending on the size of the paycheck :)
-
After reading the other replies you made, it looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts? Anyhow, it probably will not be the last time you vent like that. I have been warned many times in the last 11+ years here that I am acting like an asshole, and need to stop. Recently I was threatened with a temporary ban after pooping all over the Soapbox. That was a wake up call. Cheers. :)
Slacker007 wrote:
looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts?
Very perceptive - didn't feel like a bad mood, but it was Monday morning after a wonderful weekend with family...
Slacker007 wrote:
probably will not be the last time you vent like that
You are probably right about that! ;)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
-
You're a good man, Mark. :thumbsup: /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
Thanks, Ravi!
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
-
Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
-----
You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
-----
When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
-
TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
:laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup:
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
-
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.
-
John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.
John Wayne was a Cpian ??
-
On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
Mark Miller wrote:
in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for
SO you behaved like 99.99999999% of the people already behaved once on the internet ? You do not need to apologize for being human.
-
John Wayne was a Cpian ??
Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)
-
On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
-
Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
-
It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
kmoorevs wrote:
Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)
Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
-
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
Actually, John Wayne said it in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
-----
You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
-----
When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
